Safety First: Insights from a Near-Death Experience
The primary focus of our discourse centers on the profound implications of safety in the workplace, particularly in scenarios involving elevated risks such as ladder usage. I recount a harrowing experience whereby I fell from a significant height while performing my professional duties, an incident that was perceived by many as a near-fatal occurrence. This conversation serves as both a cautionary tale and a call to action for industry professionals to prioritize safety protocols, as the consequences of negligence can be irrevocable. Throughout our dialogue, we examine the critical importance of implementing rigorous safety measures, fostering a culture of awareness, and maintaining open communication regarding potential hazards. Ultimately, we aim to enlighten our listeners on the necessity of safeguarding not only oneself but also one’s colleagues, thereby ensuring that such accidents are prevented in the future.
Takeaways:
- This podcast episode underscores the paramount importance of safety protocols in high-risk environments, particularly during tasks such as marine detailing and ladder work.
- The speaker's harrowing experience of falling 20 feet emphasizes the unpredictable nature of accidents and the necessity of proper safety measures to mitigate risks.
- There exists a significant gap in the awareness of safety standards among business owners and employees, highlighting the need for ongoing safety education and training.
- The discussion elucidates the psychological impact of workplace accidents, revealing how such incidents can influence mental health and necessitate supportive recovery environments.
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Transcript
If we look at what the outcome is and where I am right now, if people really heard what I heard from people who saw the video, you know, that this conversation is just like I said, you know, they said it's a miracle.
Speaker A:But this conversation is really one to just take in for anybody listening because people thought I died that day, you know, and.
Speaker A:And luckily, the people that thought that they called somebody was like, oh, actually, she's at home, like.
Speaker A:And so they.
Speaker A:But I mean, it's.
Speaker A:To know that that's what the.
Speaker A:What it looked like on the.
Speaker A:The video is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Crazy to me.
Speaker B:Y out to me and told me your story.
Speaker B:I'll give you a chance to kind of retell it so everybody kind of knows what.
Speaker B:What happened to you.
Speaker B:But you reached out to me and asked, you know, about coming on and talking about safety, specifically ladder safety, because of the incident you had.
Speaker B:And I thought it was a great idea because one of the things that I've done in the.
Speaker B:The podcast before is try to talk about safety and the things that can happen in your shop or.
Speaker B:Or just.
Speaker B:Just in general.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That could potentially put you down and out.
Speaker B:So, Angela, explain to everybody exactly what happened to you and then how it has made you kind of, you know, reevaluate how you do things.
Speaker A:Well, it was really, honestly, like, a fluke accident.
Speaker A:Nothing that we hadn't done before.
Speaker A:I mean, when I'm on boats, like the one behind me, you know, we're climbing on stuff, right?
Speaker A:But I had a ladder up.
Speaker A:The boat was in the water, and we had the ladder leaning against the dock, and a boat came by on the lake, created a wake the same time, so the boat was moving the same time that I took a step.
Speaker A:And so normally I'm not stepping when the boat rocks.
Speaker A:I'm just holding on.
Speaker A:But I stepped at the same time, and the ladder slipped, and I just.
Speaker A:I fell 20ft and landed in between two giant cleats.
Speaker A:They're probably like 18 inches and, you know, pretty thick, solid metal.
Speaker A:You know, 4 inches at my head and 4 inches or 6 inches at my feet where I would have.
Speaker A:Could have hit.
Speaker A:I hit my arm on, like, a smaller cleat that was probably like 12 inches because there's, like.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That dock is like the out tie.
Speaker A:So there's.
Speaker A:That's where they have all the big boats.
Speaker A:They have to have multiple cleats there and different sizes.
Speaker A:And so it really just.
Speaker A:I know what I know partly because of the people that were there.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:Luckily, my Employee was there, and I remember him checking my pulse.
Speaker A:And, you know, he had his hand on, like, my chest.
Speaker A:Just, like, seeing.
Speaker A:You know, kind of letting me know.
Speaker A:I think it was like, that he was there.
Speaker A:And then he called 91 1.
Speaker A:And then I just remember a lady, like, doing a sternal rub on me to get me to breathe again and, you know, talking me through it.
Speaker A:And there was a guy in a yellow shirt.
Speaker A:I remember.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's weird what you remember, you know, And I remember the guy in the yellow shirt, and he's like, I'm just gonna stand over here and just was out of the way.
Speaker A:And there was a lot of people pretty.
Speaker A:What I thought was pretty quickly, but I think it was, like, about 10 minutes.
Speaker A:And they want, you know, when EMS gets there, they go through the series of questions.
Speaker A:So I didn't know my last name.
Speaker A:I didn't know where Seattle was.
Speaker A:And I was at the Seattle Yacht Club.
Speaker A:I knew I was at a yacht club, but I didn't know also if I was at Queen City or Seattle Yacht Club.
Speaker A:And they're, like, right by each other.
Speaker A:I knew the exact boat I was on, but I didn't know why I was there at the boat.
Speaker A:And I think the birthday one, it is funny because they're like, do you know your birthday?
Speaker A:And I was like, it's Sunday.
Speaker A:Because my birthday was Sunday, you know, coming up.
Speaker A:And they're like, okay, we'll take that.
Speaker A:You know, I was a C spine injury.
Speaker A:You know, it's a catastrophic fall.
Speaker A:And luckily, I didn't, like, no spinal cord damage, no nerve damage.
Speaker A:The only broken.
Speaker A:And I say only because of how far I fell, was just like, my hip socket.
Speaker A:Hairline fracture in my hip socket.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then obviously, a lot of, like, bruising, tissue damage, things like that.
Speaker A:So, you know, and then you think about, like, the things that you think about when that happens.
Speaker A:For me, it was like my flip flops.
Speaker A:I was like, where are my flip flops?
Speaker A:You know, that's like, an important thing for me.
Speaker A:I obviously have one headphone, and this isn't the same set of headphones, but I always lose, like, an airpod somewhere.
Speaker A:And so I had lost some stuff, but.
Speaker A:And, you know, Mason told me, you know, he called my parents, and they were five hours away on a boat trip off of some state park south.
Speaker A:And, you know, his story of talking to, like, my mom or my mom and dad was kind of.
Speaker A:It's funny because it's typical, like, just how my parents are.
Speaker A:And so he Was like, Angela fell off a ladder, you know, and she's going to Harbor View.
Speaker A:And my dad's like, well, we're five hours away.
Speaker A:We can't go.
Speaker A:And my mom was like, yes, the we can.
Speaker A:And so it's like, you know, then they.
Speaker A:They had to call all these people, and somebody had to drive to the state park and pick them up to drive three hours to their house to.
Speaker A:Then an hour and a half to me.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:So when I start thinking about that, it's not just.
Speaker A:And I talked about this at mt, it's not just about us and getting the cool picture.
Speaker A:It's also, there's so many other pieces that are involved in, like, in the safety aspect of it.
Speaker A:Like, I never want to put my family through something like that again.
Speaker A:It wasn't intentional.
Speaker A:But when we don't think like that until it happens.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And so for me, even after I fell, I look at all the things I've done.
Speaker A:They've just been really sketchy.
Speaker A:You know, they're cool pictures.
Speaker A:But is it worth it to take a cool picture, or is it worth it to just take the extra 15 minutes, put a harness on, tie yourself up, and make sure that that cool picture is actually cooler because you're safe.
Speaker B:Right, Exactly.
Speaker A:And I think when we're younger, we don't think about that stuff.
Speaker A:We just think, like, I can climb on here and I can do this, and.
Speaker A:And I look at.
Speaker A:I look back at like, you know, I.
Speaker A:I'm 10 years in business, and I look back at year one through five, and it's like we were doing some wild climbing.
Speaker A:I mean, I climb on.
Speaker A:Used to climb on railings all the time.
Speaker A:You know, we're climbing up and down windows on to get them to the browse.
Speaker A:Instead of, like, really thinking, what's an easier way to do it?
Speaker A:Sometimes that's the only way.
Speaker A:We're not set up with harnesses to do that.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And now I think this past year, I've been in a.
Speaker A:A harness more than ever.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And just.
Speaker B:And just so everybody understands that's listening to this.
Speaker B:Who, you know, maybe doesn't remember you from talking before or whatever.
Speaker B:It's not like you're doing boats, right?
Speaker B:Like, you.
Speaker B:You keep saying boats all the time whenever you talk to me.
Speaker B:And I'm like, you're not doing boats.
Speaker B:I mean, you're doing yachts.
Speaker B:You're doing mega.
Speaker B:Because, like, you told me, you're like, I don't like doing anything under 100ft.
Speaker B:Like, that's not a boat.
Speaker B:You know, like, like my clients, like, little 24 foot, you know, console.
Speaker B:That's a boat.
Speaker B:You know, like, I mean, my.
Speaker A:My bread and butter is like 60.
Speaker A:60 to 70.
Speaker A:And then of course, I love the big ones.
Speaker B:And still 60 foot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, you're still getting into vessel size.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, so for everybody who's listening to this, when you say, like you're climbing up the.
Speaker B:The windows to the brow and everything, and it's.
Speaker B:This isn't the wind, a Malibu, you know, water, wakeboard or whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like you're climbing up like three stories kind of thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I just want everybody to kind of understand, like, if they don't know you and they're listening to this, like, Like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're not dealing with, you know, anything small, especially, I mean, right off the guy, you know, right out the gate, you're talking about a 20 foot ladder.
Speaker B:You know, like, obviously that's a big boy, but it's a big vessel.
Speaker B:You know, I'm not even.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I think one thing too is like, no matter what size boat you're on, or even if you're on a car, like working on a car or a truck or whatever it is, and you know, like, you're on a step.
Speaker B:Step stool or don't bring up the step stool.
Speaker B:I still got.
Speaker B:I still got some PTSD from that little two stepper that broke my wrist.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Like, but I mean, it's like we don't.
Speaker A:We don't even think, like, how.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's just.
Speaker A:But I mean, after the fall, like, I really.
Speaker A:I really took a lot of time to even like, talk to one of my friends who used to.
Speaker A:He used to work with me for like six years and we talked and just.
Speaker A:He was one of the last people I text before.
Speaker A:Before I started work that day.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He sent me a text and he's like, have a great day.
Speaker A:Drink water and be safe.
Speaker A:And I was just like.
Speaker A:And then 35 minutes later, I'm texting him, fell off a ladder.
Speaker A:I'm in the hospital, you know, and then he didn't hear from me for like six hours.
Speaker A:But we had a.
Speaker A:We've, I think, wanted it with the community is really small out here.
Speaker A:And so with him and because he's worked for me, we've talked about a lot of different things to be safer with what we're doing.
Speaker A:And it even comes down to, like, process and procedure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, what are we gonna.
Speaker A:What are we gonna do?
Speaker A:And how are we.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Oh, sorry.
Speaker A:I heard a sound.
Speaker A:I was like, what is that?
Speaker A:But process procedures still, you have to look at that.
Speaker A:And what can you do with that to make your day or your work safer?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, and that's really what it was.
Speaker A:And it became very apparent to me that, like, I.
Speaker A:Not we, but I wasn't really being a responsible boss, and I can own up to that and making sure that we were really safe 100 of the time, probably like 90 of the time.
Speaker A:But you want to be like 150 safe.
Speaker A:Like an overly safe.
Speaker A:Yeah, because one small move and, you know, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, like you.
Speaker B:Like you said, I mean, you were four inches from one, cleats and stitches from another.
Speaker B:Like, if you'd have probably fell on either one of those, it might be a different story.
Speaker B:Especially with your head.
Speaker B:I mean, if your head those.
Speaker B:It might be a different story.
Speaker B:Let me ask you this.
Speaker B:Was there any kind of, you know, after the fact and everything, was there any kind of, and I don't know, maybe like the right word, like, investigation into, like, whether it be OSHA or insurance or anything like that, of why you weren't, you know, maybe harnessed up or things of that nature that, you know, is important for people to understand?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:I mean, I can't say it was in an investigation, but in talking with the people at the yacht club, the guy was like, he didn't.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He made it clear that he didn't want to lecture me because he was just happy to hear my voice because people thought I died.
Speaker A:That's what people thought.
Speaker A:I died.
Speaker A:Or I was paralyzed.
Speaker A:And so he just was like, in the future, maybe you can set up differently.
Speaker A:Maybe you're not on the ladder that's leaning against a boat, maybe.
Speaker A:And he gave me all these options.
Speaker A:He's like, maybe build scaffolding, maybe be on a harness.
Speaker A:And all this stuff that I think was really like.
Speaker A:He kind of went into like, the.
Speaker A:The dad side of it.
Speaker B:Right with me.
Speaker A:As opposed to like, you did XYZ wrong.
Speaker A:Like, it was more like, let's have a solution so this doesn't happen again.
Speaker A:They never at that marina had an incident.
Speaker A:They've had incidents, but not like that.
Speaker A:And so I think for him and I.
Speaker A:I listen.
Speaker A:Like, I kept the voicemails from people because it's just like hearing them.
Speaker A:It's just a reminder of like, well, thank God I'm here.
Speaker A:Because a lot of them are like, I'm just glad to hear.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But he really, like, even.
Speaker A:Even now, you know, once a month, he's like, he knows I'm gonna be coming up there to work pretty soon.
Speaker A:And it's just kind of like, let's be.
Speaker A:Let's be safe and have a good plan and, you know, to not go through this again.
Speaker A:And I do.
Speaker A:I have a plan.
Speaker A:I'm doing all the high stuff out of the water, so in a.
Speaker A:In a scissor lift, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And I can, like.
Speaker A:And now that, like, I think about it too, I just think we didn't.
Speaker A:We never.
Speaker A:We did everything the same way from the.
Speaker A:From year one till then.
Speaker A:And so for 10 years, you know, we.
Speaker A:You never know when it could happen.
Speaker A:It could have happened sooner.
Speaker A:It might not have ever happened.
Speaker A:But why are we waiting till something happens to be safe?
Speaker A:You know, like, why can't we just do the right thing right away?
Speaker A:And if somebody doesn't like having to wear a harness, may.
Speaker A:Maybe this isn't the job for you.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:If you're going to complain about the safety, go, you know, go sit behind a desk.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Even when I look at, like, when it comes to cars, RVs, whatever it is, like, there's that safety side of it still.
Speaker B:Yeah, Well, I mean, there's.
Speaker B:There's, I think, the biggest thing that, you know, and I.
Speaker B:And I feel like it's.
Speaker B:Whether it's boats or cars or.
Speaker B:Or trailers or RVs or whatever, one of the biggest things that I think that a lot of detailers don't.
Speaker B:And it's probably, you know, the thing that nobody thinks about.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But I mean, like, you know, wearing a mask when you're compounding, you know, so you're not breathing and all those harsh chemicals or even some of the ceramic coatings that are, you know, super, super high solids, you know, I mean, I remember.
Speaker B:I forget which brand it was, but I remember.
Speaker B:I remember, you know, coding a car one time and I was like, oh, man.
Speaker B:Like, I feel a little lightheaded for some reason.
Speaker B:It's because I was holding the bottle, like, close.
Speaker B:Close to me versus, like, setting it, you know, like, I was holding the bottle, you know, and so, like, now I.
Speaker B:I poured on my pad and I.
Speaker B:And I set it down somewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, at least I.
Speaker B:I have always worn gloves when I use ceramic coatings, you know.
Speaker A:But you're getting closer, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Get it close.
Speaker B:You know, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, but.
Speaker B:But, yeah, but I mean, like, I think that's, you know, like you said, it's just something that we, we all probably instinctively know or we know because we've seen it enough times on Facebook or whatever.
Speaker B:But when you're in it, you know, it's, it's the last thing on your mind is to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wear a harness or, you know, wear a mask or, you know, protective eyewear or make sure that the cord isn't right underneath your ladder when you step down off of the two stepper, like your wrist.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And when, and when I, like when I was talking about safety too, at mp, like, you have to have the right insurance too when this stuff is going on, you know, you actually do have to pay attention to OSHA laws and all of that stuff, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's just, it's so crazy to me to think that like I, I have this picture of one of my old employees and he.
Speaker A:I'll send it to you sometime.
Speaker A:But he's walking on the side of the boat.
Speaker A:Like, he's like, it's a two story boat, 58ft and he's walking on the edge of it cleaning the Stratoblast the outside of the stomach glass.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I look at it and I'm just like, the picture is really cool.
Speaker A:And he's on the water side and so I'm like, okay, well if he fell, he would have fallen in the water.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:But, but then I think about it now and I'm just like, what the hell was I doing allowing him to step out there like that?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And just, and I mean, and what he does now, he's like, yeah, I'm harnessed up.
Speaker A:He climbed to the top of smokestacks and stuff.
Speaker A:That's his job.
Speaker A:But, but I'm like, as risky as you are, like, is it.
Speaker A:And as.
Speaker A:As agile as you can be, is it really worth it?
Speaker A:And that's what I keep asking people.
Speaker A:Is it really worth it to do all that stuff and just wait for the accident to happen and, but how about we just prevent the accident from happening altogether?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because when I look at the spot that I was in when I went back, I literally had five feet to buff.
Speaker A:Five feet, like nothing crazy.
Speaker A:And, and it turned into.
Speaker A:I never got to finish it.
Speaker A:Didn't get to finish the job.
Speaker A:And not because the, the owner was not mad at all.
Speaker A:Like, he was actually wanted me to be safe.
Speaker A:And I'm doing, I do three of his boats already.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But, but I, that job was at the time was one of the biggest tickets that I had.
Speaker A:And I was just like.
Speaker A:And, and I had never.
Speaker A:I do five figure jobs, but this was a high five figure job.
Speaker A:And I had never price something that high.
Speaker A:And then for the guys, for the guy like, and who it is, I was just like, dang, this is crazy because it put me into a different level of, of clientele.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So to not be able to finish that job and seeing what I had already done, and I was just so excited because I knew this boat was, it was just going to be glass.
Speaker A:It was going to be, it was going to be amazing.
Speaker A:And, and I just, I felt so bad.
Speaker A:But the owner, and this is the other thing to think about too, because it's not always just safety, but are you working for the right people?
Speaker A:Is that the owner text the captain and was like, I don't care if she comes back in a week, in a month, in a year, five years, 10 years.
Speaker A:He's like, her, her health is more important than.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Any boat.
Speaker A:And I had never heard that.
Speaker A:And I've been in business 10 years and I never heard that before.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, that's awesome.
Speaker B:Because most people would be like, oh, well, okay, let me go find somebody else to finish up the job then.
Speaker B:Or, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker B:So have you finished or so.
Speaker B:Well, you said you haven't finished a job.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So he sold that boat and bought, bought the 100 footer that I'm gonna be doing in.
Speaker A:So he just went, he went bigger.
Speaker A:But we're, I mean, that one.
Speaker A:We have a totally different plan.
Speaker A:You know, I'm doing major or all the high stuff I'll do out of the water in a lift and then everything else we'll be able to do when it goes back to his house at Hunts Point.
Speaker A:But it was, I think it was really.
Speaker A:That was an eye opener for me too, on a different side of it, which is do I have the right clientele?
Speaker A:Are they really, do they really appreciate what I'm doing?
Speaker A:Because I think even sometimes all of us have, have people who are just like, I just need the job done.
Speaker A:When is it going to get done?
Speaker B:Right, right, exactly.
Speaker A:Well, I don't know.
Speaker A:We're talking about me being paralyzed and never working again.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Figure that out first, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Your boat, your boat's the last thing I'm worried about now kind of thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So how long was your recovery?
Speaker B:Because this happened, what, back in June?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I actually just learned this because I just saw my arm specialist.
Speaker A:So my Initial recovery, they say six to nine months for your initial recovery of like things kind of just like getting back into place and being able to function.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But it's after that nine months, then it's 18 to 24 months of my body really getting back.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go through a lot of residual stuff.
Speaker A:I still have my concussion, so that's gonna be a couple years.
Speaker A:If not, it could be, who knows how long that's gonna be.
Speaker A:So there's a lot of just kind of things that are trickling and every day things go away.
Speaker A:The, the recovery itself is not, was not a linear recovery.
Speaker A:Like when you break, I think I told this to you.
Speaker A:Like when you break your arm, you kind of know where, where you're going to be in six months with a, a fall.
Speaker A:And they explain this.
Speaker A:It's not, that's totally different because your body is being held together by the inflammation of your soft tissue.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And as soon as that starts healing in one place, things just start moving and the pain is ridiculous.
Speaker A:And sometimes there's a lot of pain, sometimes there's no pain.
Speaker A:I've, and I live in chronic pain, but I reached a level of pain where then they also talk about the mental side of it and the mental healing.
Speaker A:And I, 10 out of 10 do not recommend ever falling off a ladder and having to go through it and be like, take all precautions to not do it.
Speaker A:Because the recovery itself I think is harder than, or yeah, it's definitely is harder than the actual accident.
Speaker A:So because you're going through everything, you, you feel things that you never thought you were going to feel.
Speaker A:You, you're thinking things that you, you know, if you're a level headed person, the way that you think is not going to be the same.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:And then there's the PTSD on top of that and it's just like, so it's a trickling effect, it's, it's lingering.
Speaker A:I, I talk about it openly because I think people do need to be aware that it's like if, if my mental health was not in check, like I've, I've gotten it to a point where I'm in check.
Speaker A:But if it, if this had happened two years ago again, I could say we would not have this conversation because of the amount, the level of pain in which, that I reached physically, I could not deal with it.
Speaker A:And if that's the kind of, and I, I really did say to my mom, I was like, if this pain is something I have to deal with for the next six to Nine months, I will kill myself.
Speaker A:Like, and that is just because it's.
Speaker A:It's impossible.
Speaker A:It's like, there's nothing that takes it away.
Speaker A:And I can't be on narcotics, you know, you.
Speaker A:And if you go on narcotics after a fall or any injury, there's that chance of, like, you know, getting addicted and all that stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's a lot of stuff that plays into it.
Speaker B:And so how did you.
Speaker B:How did you keep your mental health in check?
Speaker B:I mean, did you talk to somebody or did you have somebody know, a therapist or something that.
Speaker B:That helped you with all of that, or what did you.
Speaker A:Yeah, so I.
Speaker A:I have had a therapist.
Speaker A:Let's see, 15.
Speaker A:The same therapist for, like, 15 years.
Speaker A:And I know a lot of people are like, oh, you should change.
Speaker A:And I'm like, well, I hate change.
Speaker A:And she's been really good.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And so, I mean, we're working on that, too.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I talked to her, like, the first.
Speaker A:I want to say, three months.
Speaker A:We talked, like, every other day.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then, of course, like, I talked to my mom and just.
Speaker A:I didn't really talk to my friends.
Speaker A:I kind of isolated myself.
Speaker A:So it didn't surprise me when people were like, I didn't know.
Speaker A:And I'm like, yeah, well, I did isolate myself because it's a.
Speaker A:It kind of puts you in a vulnerable spot of like.
Speaker A:Well, some of the stuff.
Speaker A:Conversations that were happening.
Speaker A:But my parents were definitely go to people I had my animals.
Speaker A:And so that kind of also just helped me be distracted a little bit.
Speaker A:Not that I could get up and do anything.
Speaker A:I mean, I was stuck on my couch for, like, three.
Speaker A:Almost three months.
Speaker A:Like two and a half months.
Speaker A:But, yeah, my therapist.
Speaker A:That was like a huge one.
Speaker A:My therapist and my mom and my brother, my nieces, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you had a good support.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Team kind of with you to make sure you always had that comfort.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I had.
Speaker A:And, you know, and my employee, like, he kept my business going.
Speaker A:But I think this was also something that we are forever going to be connected.
Speaker A:Like, we were connected before, but we were forever going to be connected after this because, you know, he was just there.
Speaker A:And the one thing that a lot of people don't think about is the person that's there who sees it.
Speaker A:And I made sure, like, a couple days later to just make sure he was okay, you know, because he's just seen, like, right in his face, he's just seen something really.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Traumatic.
Speaker B:Was he okay with it?
Speaker B:I mean, or did he you know, have any issues or anything?
Speaker A:He, he had some issues.
Speaker A:He was, he thought I died.
Speaker A:Like, he thought I was gonna die.
Speaker A:And we talked through it.
Speaker A:Like, we, we actually just talked to him the other day, but we talked through a lot of it at the beginning, just making sure that he was okay.
Speaker A:And, and I asked him, I was like, do you want to work or do you not want to work?
Speaker A:And he's like, no, I still want to.
Speaker A:He's like, I want to work and I want to just do this.
Speaker A:You know, he, he was one of my very first employees that I ever had.
Speaker A:And so he, he was able to talk to his friends and I think just kind of work through it and just.
Speaker A:But it was the.
Speaker A:He said the hardest part was, like, from when I went into the hospital because he was with me.
Speaker A:And then he went back and cleaned everything up and all that stuff.
Speaker A:And then he didn't really hear from me for two days.
Speaker A:So it wasn't until he heard my voice that then he knew, like, okay.
Speaker A:Like, she's okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, it kind of felt better.
Speaker B:Eased up on him a little bit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So pieces.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So have you gotten back to work yet or are you still kind of.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Working your way into it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Okay, so how long, how long were you out before you were able to, you know, get back in and get back into working?
Speaker A:Well, so originally I thought I could just go back to work because I felt good one day.
Speaker A:And so I went to work like, like, I think six days later.
Speaker A:And then I couldn't walk after that.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, God.
Speaker A:Okay, so that's not happening.
Speaker A:So when I realized that, then I didn't go back to work for about, I think, two and a half months.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And I was lucky enough to.
Speaker A:Then when I went back to work, I got to work with this really amazing guy in Gig harbor.
Speaker A:And he just said to me, he's like, I was doing a coating on his bow.
Speaker A:He has a 68 foot Princess yacht.
Speaker A:And he just said, do what you can.
Speaker A:He's like, don't push yourself.
Speaker A:He's like, if you can only do an hour, do an hour.
Speaker A:If you can do a full day, cool.
Speaker A:But he's like, just, just ease back into it.
Speaker A:And, and I'm so thankful for that because there were days where I, I could work six hours, and there were days where.
Speaker A:And mind you, six hours is short for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But that's all I can do now, really.
Speaker A:And then there was a day, There were some days where I only worked an hour, and there was a day where I came down and something was out of place and my mental state was not right and I was like, I gotta go home.
Speaker A:You know, and that's really just how it is sometimes.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I think with him allowing me to just kind of figure out where my body was able to do stuff and where it can't, and him and his wife just being so supportive, that really helped me be able to feel good about myself, to get back in and work because, you know, some of my muscles atrophied and I wasn't where I was before.
Speaker A:You know, we're talking about me working like 12 to 14 hours because I like it.
Speaker A:Now the most I can work is six hours or at that time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And so yesterday I actually worked a really long day.
Speaker A:I did a.
Speaker A:Which is I.
Speaker A:I was so happy that I did this, but I did my eight hours and then went home, hung out with my dogs and I went back to work because I love working at night.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So I went back to work and.
Speaker A:And I was like, this is.
Speaker A:It felt so good to just be able to do that and just almost be back to where I normally am.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:I'm not going to do that all the time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was just a.
Speaker A:Probably like once in a blue moon.
Speaker A:I'll go back to work later.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:How hard is it to work on boats at night then?
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker A:Well, they're in a boat house, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So the light, he's got really good lighting and I have a whole light system now that I built.
Speaker A:I designed it when I was like on my back.
Speaker A:I was like, I'm gonna design this and I'm gonna do this and you know what can make my life easier, so.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, that's cool.
Speaker B:With the concussion, does that.
Speaker B:I mean, like, how does that affect you as far as, like, you know, I know a lot of times, you know, having a concussion that lingers on, you know, either bright lights or quick movements or, you know, heights even.
Speaker B:So, like, how does that affect you with, you know, being up on, you know, ladders or having to move your head side to side, you know, looking at things, or especially with the light system, you know, being.
Speaker B:Being real bright.
Speaker A:Well, would.
Speaker A:It actually affects what.
Speaker A:My concussion affects me more in.
Speaker A:In my memory, so I have like short term memory loss of.
Speaker A:And I want to be like, is it because I fell and hit my head or is it because I turned 40?
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:But I really.
Speaker A:I've had such a good memory, but I really think it's because I hit my head.
Speaker A:But I also.
Speaker A:Sometimes my balance is off.
Speaker A:Like, it's really weird.
Speaker A:Like, I'm.
Speaker A:I've always been.
Speaker A:When you're on a boat, it's one hand for you, one hand for the boat.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think, like, in the summertime, we work barefooted on the boats.
Speaker A:That's just how we are.
Speaker A:But sometimes I'll be on there and just, like, the slightest movement, it's like I'm like, oh, my God, I'm falling.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm not falling.
Speaker A:I'm just like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I feel like I'm going almost.
Speaker B:Like a severe vertigo kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker A:And it's really quick.
Speaker A:And then I.
Speaker A:I'm reminded of, like.
Speaker A:No, you're not.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker A:You're fine.
Speaker A:You're literally standing here.
Speaker A:Ye at mte I noticed that I get over stimulated.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Very quickly.
Speaker A:So walking into the convention, my.
Speaker A:My head was just like, I can't.
Speaker A:I could hear every conversation very vividly because I'm.
Speaker A:Because my memory is, like, shot.
Speaker A:I'm concentrating a lot to.
Speaker A:To remember things, but now I'm hearing everything.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And where normally I could tone things out, I can't.
Speaker A:I can't really do that anymore.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:It's really weird.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:And then when I get too tired, then my speech is messed up.
Speaker A:And so a lot of times I would dip out before.
Speaker A:And I could get to that point with anybody.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because my.
Speaker A:There's just like this.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I can't get the words out that I'm thinking that I want to say.
Speaker A:And then I'm just.
Speaker A:I stutter a lot.
Speaker A:And it happens when I'm on the phone, too, with people.
Speaker A:Like, I'll start talking, and I'm just like, I can't say what I'm trying to say.
Speaker A:And then I'm just apologizing for not saying what's in my head because I just can't get the words out.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's like they won't go from your brain to your tongue kind of thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So bringing up NTE And I know you did a ladder safety education, so how was that?
Speaker B:You know, how did.
Speaker B:First of all, like, I guess, like, let's.
Speaker B:Let's go through, like, wanting to do it.
Speaker B:I mean, obviously, I know MTE for everybody who's listening, whoever wants to do any.
Speaker B:Almost anybody can kind of do an Education, you just have to submit.
Speaker B:MTE obviously has to, you know, whatever the committee is, they weed it down to, like, the ones that I guess are like, you know, really good.
Speaker B:Like, ladder safety is probably a really good one.
Speaker B:How to start a detailing podcast.
Speaker B:They probably, like, Alex, you know, you don't need to do that, you know, kind of thing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So, like, tell me, like, like, you know, from having that idea, like, what did you submit?
Speaker B:You know, how.
Speaker B:And then how did you, you know, plan it out and then.
Speaker B:And then how was the turnout?
Speaker A:So I knew I wanted to talk again.
Speaker A:They had asked me last year to speak again about marine detailing or this side of what I do.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I told them I would.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:I was like, I'll do it.
Speaker A:And then after my fall, I was just kind of.
Speaker A:It really was just me thinking, like, hey, you know what this is?
Speaker A:Some people do need a reality check of, like, accidents happen.
Speaker A:And this is like, I'm very much.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:People there were like, you're such a miracle.
Speaker A:It's a miracle that you're walking.
Speaker A:And they're absolutely correct.
Speaker A:I necessarily don't.
Speaker A:I don't necessarily think I'd use miracle, but it is true.
Speaker A:Like, I am.
Speaker A:I'm very lucky for the outcome of everything.
Speaker A:But with thinking about that, I was like, I just want to go and just not to be all sappy about it.
Speaker A:It's just, like, speak my truth on what actually happened and how we can prevent that from happening.
Speaker A:Like, where did I go wrong?
Speaker A:Because a lot of people also won't talk about where they went wrong.
Speaker A:And they're just like, they.
Speaker A:We look at them and we're just like, oh, they're perfect.
Speaker A:They run a perfect shop.
Speaker A:Nothing probably ever happens there when the reality is, like, they're doing sketchy, you know, and, yeah, we do sketchy stuff on boats all the time.
Speaker A:But I really wanted to want to be super authentic about that, where I've made mistakes and to help people not make those same mistakes that I made.
Speaker A:And so that's where, for me, I felt like I can allow myself to tap into something and be super authentic and vulnerable about this thing that still is fresh and let people see that.
Speaker A:And being 10 years in business, I'm not new in business, you know, I'm 10 years in and happens and did happen.
Speaker A:And I just wanted, like, I.
Speaker A:I saw the people that.
Speaker A:In that.
Speaker A:Like, I just see people, and they just.
Speaker A:Sometimes it seems like they're.
Speaker A:They're better.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I hate saying this, but it's almost like they just come off as, like, nothing will ever happen to me.
Speaker A:Nothing can touch me.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And we're all invincible.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker A:That was a lot of it too.
Speaker A:It's just like, I want to be able to.
Speaker A:To make sure this doesn't happen to somebody.
Speaker A:There's going to be somebody out there listening that is going to take something from this and be like, oh, well, maybe I can just set myself up for success instead of potentially setting myself up for failure.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So that was a lot of it.
Speaker A:And maybe people take nothing from it and they're just like, oh, she fell off a ladder.
Speaker A:Who cares?
Speaker A:But what, what's going to happen if you do have an employee and you aren't set up correctly and that employee falls and that employee dies and how are you, like, what could you have done?
Speaker A:How about we just prevent that?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I think the one thing, and I mean, it's a little different in your.
Speaker B:Your case somewhat, because it was you and not your employee.
Speaker B:But I think, you know, we, a lot of, A lot of detailers or, or business owners, you know, probably don't carry proper insurance or the right insurance.
Speaker B:So I mean, the fact that it was.
Speaker B:And like, not that it, it was not because it was you, but like, if it was, if it's your employee and you don't have the correct insurance, like now that 10 years in business is just done, because then employees will sue you for everything you want.
Speaker B:So you have to make sure that you're properly insured, you know, and again, like I said, I just, you know, you see the posts all the time of, you know, people asking, why do I need insurance?
Speaker B:Why do I need insurance?
Speaker B:You know, whatever.
Speaker B:Well, here's why.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So how, how was the turnout for it?
Speaker B:I mean, did you have a good turnout?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's definitely more people at this talk than there were at the last one.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then what I found out from just walking around and talking to people is like, there, there was a positive.
Speaker A:There's a lot of positive feedback, which is we need to talk more safety when it comes to MTE and being able to have education day and people are like, that's going to be your job now.
Speaker A:And I was like, I don't.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I don't wanna.
Speaker A:Unfortunately, I am probably gonna be the one that does talk safety and I am going to relive this every time that I talk about it, which is fine because it also is like healing.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But Safety is just.
Speaker A:I don't know, Like, I, I think I push it so much now just because of this whole thing.
Speaker A:And like you said, you know, people don't have the right insurance.
Speaker A:People, like, do your employees have their own personal insurance?
Speaker A:You know, that's something to look at too.
Speaker A:Like, are you running.
Speaker A:Is your business running the right insurance?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's one thing I'm kind of surprised, like, now, kind of thinking about it is like, I'm surprised more companies aren't offering, you know, more safety equipment.
Speaker B:You know, whether.
Speaker B:Or even, like, you know, I'm surprised MTE doesn't have somebody there, you know, who offers safety equipment, whether it's, you know, PPE gear, you know, eyewear, masks, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know, safe.
Speaker B:Safe ladders, you know, if there's.
Speaker B:If there's a safe ladder, you know, kind of thing or, Or.
Speaker B:Or harnesses or, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I might have to pitch that to Sheldon.
Speaker B:Maybe he should look into a company to come and, and, and, uh, exhibit at mte just to push the safety aspect.
Speaker A:I mean, the guy that lives across the street, like my neighbor that saves my house whenever something goes wrong when I'm gone, that's what he said.
Speaker A:That's what he settles.
Speaker A:Like, he works for a company and that's what they do.
Speaker A:And he's like, he's like, if you ever want, like, a really cool harness, he's like, let me know.
Speaker A:And I'm like, what?
Speaker A:Like, okay, yeah.
Speaker B:Where were you back in May of last year?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, yeah, I feel like they really should.
Speaker A:I mean, you're.
Speaker A:You're pushing all this other stuff.
Speaker A:You're pushing some, like.
Speaker A:We're pushing, like, mediocre films, mediocre coatings.
Speaker A:Let's put some.
Speaker A:Some effort into, like, some real stuff, some safety stuff.
Speaker A:How about.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, why do we push so many other things when we could push even.
Speaker B:Yeah, because I mean, even some of these companies, they kind of, you know, like, a lot of the coding companies are like, wear gloves, you know, but, like, you know, when I'm ordering chemicals and, and, man, I mean, maybe I need to have a talk with Jason now that I'm thinking about this, because Aquatech, we kind of fall into this.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker B:But, you know, I mean, like, how cool would it be if you were ordering gloves from your.
Speaker B:Or, you know, if you were able to order gloves while you're ordering your ceramic coatings?
Speaker B:You're like, you know, I'm ordering ceramic coatings in.
Speaker B:Your ceramic coating company that you order from has Nitrate gloves on their site.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, yeah, I need some gloves.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because, you know, most of the time we're all ordering them off of Amazon, but sometimes you don't think about it or whatever.
Speaker B:Or, you know, if, if the compound and polish company has, you know, eyewear and masks, and whether you order them or not, it's different story.
Speaker B:But if they had them available, you know, like, make it more accessible.
Speaker A:Like when you're.
Speaker B:Right, right, right.
Speaker B:Because that's, that's the thing, right?
Speaker B:You're like, oh, oh, I need compound and polish.
Speaker B:But you don't ever go like, but do I need gloves?
Speaker B:Do I need eyewear?
Speaker B:Do I need a mask, you know, to like go on Amazon or something like that?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Because they all do kind of teach it.
Speaker B:I mean, I've, you know, you hear all the, the big names across the industry always talking about, you know, I mean, I always remember Marcus Parsley when he was at igl, you know, constantly was talking about wearing gloves because he's like, if it's on you, it's in you, you know?
Speaker B:You know, and, and it's, it's funny to see, you know, people on, on Facebook or Instagram or Tick Tock applying ceramic coatings and they're doing it bare handed, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, what are you doing?
Speaker A:I did that one time and I don't do it like that anymore.
Speaker A:One time and I was like, this sucks.
Speaker A:My hands are hydrophobic and yeah, I'm gonna die doing this before I die.
Speaker B:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe the detail industry needs to be, you know, do better with safety.
Speaker B:And I could say that because we're having this conversation and it's making me think about it, but I, I think for the most part, again, until it happens to you, you don't, you just don't think about it.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, I definitely know since I had my, my fall off the ladder and, and, and broke my wrist, like, I, I realized like, you know, I'm 51, I'm about to be 52 in, in a few weeks.
Speaker B:Like, I realized like, okay, I just can't like, hop up in the back of the pickup truck anymore.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, let's get the step out, you know, let's step on the step, let's step on the tire.
Speaker B:Let's step over into the bed.
Speaker B:You know, like, it's, I feel like, ah, such an old man doing it that way.
Speaker B:But I realized like, my body doesn't like, you Know, do that anymore.
Speaker B:Like, I can't just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hop into the back of a pickup truck.
Speaker B:I just can't jump out of the back of a pickup truck anymore.
Speaker B:Like, I have a.
Speaker B:You know, like, even now, like, you know, my mentality is like, okay, we're just gonna jump into the back of this SUV and clean these back windows.
Speaker B:And I'm like, you know, struggling.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, let me go.
Speaker A:You know, Like, I'll get it after lunch.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:It's like I'm trying to, like, hop up in there and roll around and pull myself up and so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I think a lot of it, too, is, you know, our mental.
Speaker B:Our mental state.
Speaker B:Like, we can still do things that we could do when we were younger, or we just.
Speaker B:Our mental state is like, nah, we got this, bro.
Speaker B:Like, let's just do it, you know, and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, you.
Speaker B:You miss, you know, and.
Speaker B:And then you're down and out.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And I think that the one thing that we didn't talk about is some of the reality of getting injured on the job.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the conversations that come with, like, a catastrophic injury, which is like, you know, my.
Speaker A:My spinal surgeon, my orthopedic surgeon, my arm specialist, you know, the neurosurgeon, they were all like, you may never work again.
Speaker A:Or the one is like, the big one is like, you may never walk again.
Speaker A:Yeah, the working.
Speaker A:I was like, yeah, but the.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:You may never walk again.
Speaker A:Well, then why am I, like, what am I doing if I can't do that?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, and so.
Speaker A:And that was a big thing for me when it.
Speaker A:With talking as well, is like, learn from, like, my mistake and never have to have those conversations, at least not when it comes to your job.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But to answer your question about the outcome from mt, I got a lot of positive feedback.
Speaker A:There's probably twice as many people in the.
Speaker A:The on the education day than there was last year.
Speaker A:And I think it's gonna continuously grow, like, as I allow myself to really, like, just be open about it and just have these.
Speaker A:One.
Speaker A:Have these conversations and talk more at MTE or any.
Speaker A:Any place that wants to have safety as a conversation.
Speaker A:So I'm open to having safety as a conversation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, when you reached out to me and was like, hey, I'd love to come on and do this, like, you know, again, I think I fell in that.
Speaker B:That, you know, I didn't know it had happened to you, you know, because, you know, I didn't.
Speaker B:I didn't see it.
Speaker B:I don't know if you really posted it or anything like that.
Speaker B:And so, like, it caught me off guard when you said that.
Speaker B:I was like, holy.
Speaker B:You know, like, yeah, I.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker A:Post when I got out of the hospital because I had, like, over.
Speaker A:Like, over 75 texts, like, 80 texts or something.
Speaker A:I was like, I'm not texting these people back.
Speaker A:Like, I will make a post.
Speaker A:And that's how people can know.
Speaker A:And, you know, then we.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The nice thing, too, is, like, we have a community that's.
Speaker A:A boating community that's tight.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:They really rallied around, like, me and my family as well.
Speaker A:And so that was kind of nice for us to have, like, that extra support, but I really didn't step outside.
Speaker A:I really didn't.
Speaker A:Well, because I really couldn't.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But that's besides the point.
Speaker A:But I didn't, like, I didn't reach out to people and.
Speaker A:And really talk to them.
Speaker A:I mean, there's a handful of people, and so I did have people at mt, and they're like, oh, I feel bad.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I didn't contact you.
Speaker A:And I'm like, well, you can't feel bad about something that I didn't tell you about, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like, you can feel bad a little bit because that's on.
Speaker A:That's on you.
Speaker A:But really, like, don't feel bad about me, because if I didn't, like, if I had text you and was like, hey, Alex, I.
Speaker A:I fell, like, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then I never replied to you, then I.
Speaker B:Yeah, then I'm the.
Speaker B:But the fact that you didn't, you know, like, I.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Yeah, but no, it was just.
Speaker B:It was just crazy, you know, Like, I was, you know, when you reached out to me, I was like, oh, hell yeah, let's do this.
Speaker B:Because, you know, that's the one thing that, you know, I always like to try and do every so often on the podcast is do something about safety or.
Speaker B:Or health or whatever, because I don't think it's talked about enough.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And sometimes it's tough because sometimes I think, you know, we're.
Speaker B:We're afraid to hear these stories or whatever because we think it can't happen to us.
Speaker B:So, like, why.
Speaker B:You know, why do we want to listen to it or why we want to hear it?
Speaker B:So that's why I'm glad that you had such a great turnout at MTE that people wanted to hear your story or, you know, just, you know, find out hey, like, this can happen to me.
Speaker B:So what do I need to do to change my routine and.
Speaker B:And have a better, you know, setup for, you know, thing?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, and I think there was a lot of, like, I think bosses in there, like, managers and bosses.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:There was a group that they had, like, younger.
Speaker A:Like, their crew was there.
Speaker A:Younger guys.
Speaker A:And I could tell those younger guys didn't really care.
Speaker A:Like, and.
Speaker A:And that's fine.
Speaker A:Like, you don't have to.
Speaker A:You don't.
Speaker A:You don't have to care one bit.
Speaker A:But I could also tell that maybe the business owners sometimes forget that they have to care about their employees and their employees safety and what their employees are doing.
Speaker A:Like, are they cutting corners?
Speaker A:Do you have the right process and procedures to make sure nothing happens?
Speaker A:And are they following it?
Speaker A:And are you, like, enforcing it?
Speaker A:I know that any of my guys, I could bring them onto a project right now, and they would know exactly what I want, exactly how to do it.
Speaker A:Because we've done the same process and procedures for.
Speaker A:They did eight and a half years with me, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But there are quite a few places that they're just like, oh, you know how to buff.
Speaker A:This is how you're gonna do it.
Speaker A:Oh, we're changing it every day.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker A:We're not reinventing the wheel here.
Speaker A:Like, but you have to pay attention to your employees, and you have to make sure they're set up for success and the safety side of it, because if they go away, who are you going to bring in?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And if they go.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If enough of them go away because you haven't taken care of them, because they might have gotten hurt, and God forbid they do.
Speaker A:But if they have and you aren't taking care of them, what are they saying?
Speaker A:Because you didn't take care of them.
Speaker A:Them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so that's like, if this had been Mason, you know, like, I already would know where we went wrong, and I would be very prepared to take care of anything that he needed.
Speaker A:But I know so many people who just don't care, you know, like, you work for me.
Speaker A:No, my employees work with me.
Speaker A:Like, we work together.
Speaker A:But when the.
Speaker A:But I can tell when there's people that are.
Speaker A:You work for me.
Speaker A:It's my business.
Speaker A:You do what I say.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, you're doing what I say because I have the expertise to tell it, to guide you so that we can work right as a unit, you.
Speaker B:Know, so when you.
Speaker B:When you work with.
Speaker B:With your employees now, I mean, do you Guys, kind of before you start the, the project, I mean, are you mapping out your, your kind of safety protocols?
Speaker B:Like, okay, if we're doing this, you know, we're going to make sure we're on the scissor lift.
Speaker B:We're going to make sure that we're harnessed in.
Speaker B:If we're, you know, top side of the boat.
Speaker B:Like, you know, make sure, you know, you're harnessed in or tied off or, you know, however.
Speaker B:I mean, do you, do you kind of, do you kind of get a little bit of a, of a plan going for that before just attacking it?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now.
Speaker A:So one, I don't really have employees now, but when I bring people in, for instance, when Mason was with me, we had, we're on the princess yacht and his arch on the boat was probably up like 18ft or something from the water.
Speaker A:And so I wasn't going up there, but Mason and I talked about it for about a week and a half before I put him up there.
Speaker A:And I was like, we'll have a harness.
Speaker A:I was like, we're gonna.
Speaker A:Every time we look at this boat, we're gonna figure out how are we gonna tie this off to make it so it's safe for you.
Speaker A:And, and he very much was a part of that planning so that he was going to be safe since he was the one climbing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:A few years back, we did a 92 footer when I had my full crew and we definitely took about, I want to say, three days to plan how we were going to set up all of these harnesses to get the outside of the boat.
Speaker A:But it's never just me saying, like, this is how I want to do it if I'm not in the harness and the person that's in the harness doesn't like what we're doing.
Speaker A:They are definitely a part of that plan of like, how, how.
Speaker A:What's going to make you feel most safe while we're doing this?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:And what do I have to do to ensure your safety?
Speaker A:Like, do you want me standing here?
Speaker A:Do you want me not standing here?
Speaker A:Do you want me talking to you because you need a distraction?
Speaker A:Do you want me to hold your compounds?
Speaker A:You want me to be able to grab your buffer?
Speaker A:What do you want me to do?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Because all of that plays into the success of the job that we're doing.
Speaker A:I would never just let somebody just climb on up on like, well, on a ladder there's got to be two people, but we're never going to use ladders again.
Speaker A:That's just.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:And in a.
Speaker A:On a scissor lift, like, you're fairly safe on there.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I was on a sister lift today, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But when we're on harnesses, I mean, that is very much a team effort of, like, let's make sure everybody's safe, whether it's two people together or, you know, three people are watching the lines and one person's out there polishing.
Speaker A:I don't care how long it takes you to do it, as long as you have what you need to be successful.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And safe.
Speaker B:And be safe.
Speaker B:I mean, that's.
Speaker B:That's the main thing is.
Speaker B:Doesn't matter how long it takes.
Speaker B:Let's just be safe with it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And especially now, because I'm doing film, like.
Speaker A:Well, I've been doing film for a while, but, you know, like, you have to be.
Speaker A:Like, when we do a horn or when we do a hard top, you have to be in a harness, like, no matter what, because the second that film goes down, like, it's not like I'm on solid ground.
Speaker A:Like, I don't have the luxury of being on solid ground, like, on a car.
Speaker A:Like, I'm.
Speaker A:I have to lay on this film sometimes.
Speaker A:And that film, the second there's moisture in the air, you just start sliding.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I've literally been at the edge of my line on a harness laying there, like, it's fully holding me, and I'm, like, leaning out the edge just so I can, like, you know, do my.
Speaker A:In the corner.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:But, I mean, I'm putting all my weight onto that harness and being held in.
Speaker A:But I remember one time I laid the film, and I had to lay down to do a little section.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, God, I'm sliding.
Speaker A:I wasn't gonna slide far.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But I see it about, like, an inch, and I could feel it.
Speaker A:Very slowly, I slid, and I was like, yep, we're gonna put a harness on, and I'm going to tie off right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because sliding some.
Speaker B:Sometimes sliding an inch doesn't feel like much.
Speaker B:Like, if you're on a slip and slide with not enough soap.
Speaker B:But if you're on a high thing and you slide just an inch, it feels like you're falling off the Empire State Building, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I mean, I would rather my guys, like, if you came and worked with me and you, and I'm like, you're gonna do the outside of this boat.
Speaker A:Like, I would rather you tell me what is going to be safe for you, like how you want to do this.
Speaker B:Me standing on this dock watching you do the outside of the boat is what I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Yeah, because I don't do boats.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:That'S.
Speaker A:Most people, they're like, I hate boats.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, you can hate them all.
Speaker A:Day long, but I also, I also don't like cars.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, that's, that's like the, the interesting thing, like the more that I meet people in this industry is, you know, there's, there's the people that love to do interiors and don't look, don't, don't like doing exteriors.
Speaker B:You know, there's people who love exteriors.
Speaker B:Don't love and, and you know, don't want to do interiors.
Speaker B:There's, there's people that are just boat people all day long, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know I've met some people that are like just, you know, airline or, you know, plane people, you know, that's all they do planes all day long.
Speaker B:That's all they want to work on.
Speaker B:And so it's just neat how everybody just, you know, somehow finds their niche.
Speaker B:Because, you know, I mean, I started working at a car wash.
Speaker B:That's where I learned detailing, you know.
Speaker B:And I mean, yeah, we would do boats at the car wash and things like that, but I mean, it's not, you know, very often or whatever.
Speaker B:And so it, it's, you know, I, I never really looked at it as like, oh, there's people that are detailing boats like as a job job, you know, not, not just doing them here and there.
Speaker B:Oh, there's people that like just do airplanes only because that's a, that's a job or whatever.
Speaker B:So the, the more I like, you know, dive into this industry and everything, you know, you learn that there's, there's people, you know, I mean, shoot metal polishers, you know, the people are just.
Speaker B:All they do is aluminum or whatever.
Speaker B:It's like, ah, like, you know, like, like I don't even want to do cars or boats or planes or whatever.
Speaker B:I just want to polish metal all day long.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I mean, if I ever say that.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I don't want to do that either.
Speaker A:It's, it's when I say that, like I do boats and stuff, like, I mean, there's always that one person that's just trying to.
Speaker A:1.
Speaker A:I'm a female in a male driven industry.
Speaker A:Yeah, not a big deal.
Speaker A:I really don't care.
Speaker A:But some people do Care.
Speaker A:And this was the first time at MTE were like.
Speaker A:And I, I know you'll get this.
Speaker A:When I say where it's like there's like a bigger dick cover conversation happening.
Speaker A:And I was like, I don't, I don't care what, like, I don't care about that.
Speaker A:Like, if you're good at what you do, by all means be good at it, but don't.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're no better than anybody here.
Speaker A:We're all on the same level of what we're doing.
Speaker B:Well, and I think it's all subjective too.
Speaker B:You know, this whole like, I'm the best or I'm better than, like, I'm.
Speaker A:The best at falling off a ladder.
Speaker A:That is one thing I'll say.
Speaker A:I have won that award.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, let's, let's.
Speaker B:I mean we'll, we'll put it out there.
Speaker B:Has anybody fallen off a higher ladder?
Speaker B:I've done a two step.
Speaker B:I've fallen off a two step foot.
Speaker B:So you've got me beat off off of the 20 footer versus is anybody.
Speaker B:Does anybody fall off of.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Higher than 20ft.
Speaker B:That can take it from.
Speaker A:And we're not talking, we're talking hitting solid ground.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You have to hit solid ground.
Speaker A:Not falling in the water.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not falling onto an airbag.
Speaker B:Let me ask you this.
Speaker B:When you fell, did.
Speaker B:Were you, did you have any tools with you?
Speaker B:I mean like, were you holding a polisher?
Speaker A:Yeah, I was holding my polisher.
Speaker B:So when, when you fell, did you let go of the polisher or did it.
Speaker A:I think I threw it like, because it, from what Mason said, it like landed on the dock.
Speaker A:It wasn't on because I was still climbing up, but it landed on the dock.
Speaker A:But I think I threw it.
Speaker A:It's funny, everything like landed fine.
Speaker A:Like my flip flops landed fine, my sunglasses landed fine.
Speaker A:My airpods were on the edge of the dock.
Speaker B:But you landed everything but me.
Speaker A:But then the funny part about it is like, I guess something happened in my sunglasses, went in the water, you know, and then it was like.
Speaker A:And then the next day I put my airpods through the wash and it's like.
Speaker A:And it's like then when we got to work, like the polisher like fell in the water.
Speaker A:So it's like just these things.
Speaker A:I was like, really like this.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The reason why I asked is, was because when I, when I.
Speaker B:And I didn't fall, I guess I should say I didn't fall off the two step, right?
Speaker B:No, I stepped down and when I Stepped down.
Speaker B:I stepped onto the extension cord where it plugs in.
Speaker B:And it.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:It had a round into it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So when I stepped on it, it.
Speaker B:It rolled.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So then I did one of these numbers.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I think where I went wrong was instead of throwing my rupes machine, I cradled it like it was a baby and tried to brace myself with my hand.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker B:That's what caused my.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:For me to break my wrist.
Speaker B:So, you know, Lesson learned.
Speaker B:Throw the 400 rupes machine to the ground and, you know, not get a broken wrist, maybe.
Speaker B:Although I still don't know if I would have dropped the rupes machine, would I still not broken my wrist or whatever?
Speaker B:Because how else would I have kind of saved myself in the fall?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I was just curious if you.
Speaker B:If you hate.
Speaker B:Held on to it like it was a baby, like I did, or you just threw that out, like.
Speaker A:No, I probably threw it.
Speaker A:I mean, the only distinct thought that I had while falling, I think I told you this, was there was a dead fish.
Speaker A:Mason and I were talking, and there we noticed there was a dead fish between the dock and the boat.
Speaker A:And while I was falling, I do remember thinking to myself, just don't hit that fish.
Speaker A:Don't hit the fish.
Speaker A:Right, because your brain works in a very interesting way, you know?
Speaker A:And so it's like.
Speaker A:But for that to be my thought of, like, while I'm falling is just.
Speaker A:It's just funny.
Speaker A:It's just wild to me.
Speaker A:Like, I really didn't want to hit the fish.
Speaker A:I was really concerned about my flip flops.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, not.
Speaker B:Not, hey, don't hit those big metal cleats that might take me out.
Speaker A:Completely minor situation there.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:My thoughts of, like, yeah, there was three people that I was, like, really concerned about.
Speaker A:It was like, my friend Kelsey, for one.
Speaker A:And then I was like.
Speaker A:I remember thinking, like, where is she?
Speaker A:And I remember thinking, you know, Grant Menard.
Speaker A:And I was like.
Speaker A:I was like, oh.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:I was like, I gotta call Grant.
Speaker A:And then my parents and so.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I remember telling Grant, I was like, yeah, you were one of, like, my first thoughts, like, when I fell.
Speaker A:And he was just like, of course.
Speaker A:Like, he was, like, happy about it.
Speaker A:But, you know, he's.
Speaker A:He's my friend and I have so much respect for him and.
Speaker A:But he's.
Speaker A:He has definitely helped me through so much in my life.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:You know, he's been.
Speaker A:He was updated along the way with everything that was going on.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And he, he did, he did see me.
Speaker A:I did go to AFO and.
Speaker A:Because that was 10 days after I fell.
Speaker A:And that's what.
Speaker A:And that's when I found out, like, oh, I can't, I can't walk.
Speaker A:Like, that's when I found that out was when I was up there.
Speaker A:I was like, this isn't happening.
Speaker A:So, so the first couple days you think like, you can do stuff and then really.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can't do anything.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But then, you know, like, when it comes down to the safety part of it, let's just not put ourselves in those situations.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Let's be smarter.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's the right thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, you know, try, you know, kind of taking this role as, you know, like you said, like, you know, I'll probably be the safety person to talk about this.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Like, what other ways are you trying to kind of get that message out there other than like MTE or, you know, reaching out to me about coming on the podcast?
Speaker B:I mean, are you, are you doing any, you know, other things?
Speaker B:Are you posting about it or talking about it or, or anything or.
Speaker A:I am not posting about it quite yet.
Speaker A:I, I have thought about putting some stuff on my social media and I just need to talk to my social media people about, about that.
Speaker A:I think part of why I haven't really put it on my social media is because I'm still, I have a lot of PTSD from it.
Speaker A:And so when I, when I do talk about it, I've prepared myself to talk about it.
Speaker A:So like, for this, I was like, I know we're talking about this, this, this week.
Speaker A:And so I was able to prepare myself to not have some sort of freak out moment all week.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I think that some of it too is just being really realistic with allowing myself to be.
Speaker A:To let people like, know this side of it.
Speaker A:But to push safety, it's like the people have to know why and the why is the accident.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, that, that for me there has to be.
Speaker A:The why has to be answered and why is the accident and it's whether, like, how am I going to get through that?
Speaker A:And still I'm obviously okay with it.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not okay with it.
Speaker A:I'm okay with talking about it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:To a certain extent.
Speaker A:But I want to talk more like not just on podcasts or not just at mte because I don't think it should be like just a once in a while thing.
Speaker A:I think that it should be pretty Regular.
Speaker A:That we are having conversations, even if it's like, you know, we're having, like, somebody's just like, oh, I'm just gonna have you on and talk for, you know, 10 minutes about safety is so important.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:Then that's that on.
Speaker A:Whatever it is.
Speaker A:I'm still trying to navigate, like, who I can talk to and who.
Speaker A:Who has the biggest platform to be able to listen and understand that we have to push safety.
Speaker A:Like, I apologize in my speech or like, in my speech, when I was talking at mte, I apologized to those people, and I.
Speaker A:And now that I think about it, I was like, I have nothing to apologize for.
Speaker A:But what I said was like, I'm sorry that I'm pushing safety so much with you guys.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And nobody should be apologizing for that.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:In my head, I was apologizing because people wanted to hear the money side.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They didn't want to hear the safety side.
Speaker A:But the real.
Speaker A:The reality is.
Speaker B:Well, because it's not gonna have money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If we.
Speaker A:We're not gonna have money if we don't have safety.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:Whatever I can do, if people want to call me or just like, yeah, get it out more, I'm willing to do it to a certain extent.
Speaker A:I also have to be mindful of myself.
Speaker A:My men.
Speaker B:Have you tried to talk to the IDA at all about maybe trying to, like, do something through the ida?
Speaker A:I mean, I think I.
Speaker A:I want to do a webinar on it because I did a webinar last year.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It's actually, I did my webinar, and then that following Tuesday is when I fell, so.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I think that I haven't reached out to them yet.
Speaker A:They know that I'm very interested in talking, so I probably will reach out to them when I'm maybe, you know, next week.
Speaker A:I'm pretty busy this year, though, so.
Speaker A:But I do wanna.
Speaker A:I do want to get.
Speaker A:Get it out there more and just, you know, if that's what people know me for instead of votes, then fine, so be it.
Speaker A:That's totally okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, but that's.
Speaker B:That's probably a good thing for people to know you for.
Speaker B:You know, that the person that's making everybody safer or at least giving them kind of the right, you know, id.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker B:Ideas for safety.
Speaker B:I mean, I.
Speaker B:I would also say, like, you know, the round table, too.
Speaker B:I mean, reaching out to them and.
Speaker B:And talking to them.
Speaker B:I don't know what kind of interaction you have with the with those guys and everything.
Speaker B:But, you know, I know that they do a lot of.
Speaker B:I don't know if they do any webinars, but I know they do a lot of, you know, just posts and talks and, and, you know, the trainings and things like that.
Speaker B:That would probably be a good thing too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think as this year progresses and as they go, probably start looking more.
Speaker A:I do feel like it's important for me.
Speaker A:For me.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I know it's like most of the time people see me as like, joking and having a good time, which I am.
Speaker A:But this is like, I know this is a serious conversation that people need to really have, have like sunk into their head, you know, when they're gonna get a business going or if they already have a business.
Speaker A:You really, you know.
Speaker A:Yes, it can always be fun.
Speaker A:You can have a good time and laugh because I definitely push that with my business.
Speaker A:But we got to be real about safety.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I can't say it any other way.
Speaker A:You just have to feel about it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:I mean, it's.
Speaker A:And I don't mind being that person that, you know, that does that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, I think it's.
Speaker B:I, I think, you know, not a good thing that it happened to you, but, but maybe, you know, on the, on the reverse side because now you're thinking that way, you know, and now you've got this experience to kind of, you know, explain to people or teach people, like, hey, this is where I up.
Speaker B:So let me give you the tools so you don't go through the same, the same thing again.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I think, like, the only thing I can do for people is just be honest about what I went through and what happened.
Speaker A:And I don't need to go into the, the details of like, you know, the recovery part.
Speaker A:They don't, they don't really know.
Speaker A:Need to know that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:That's really personal.
Speaker A:And really, when I look at it, some of it's just overwhelming.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:To talk about.
Speaker A:But when, if, if people aren't talking about, like, they're not having an authentic conversation about this, then people aren't going to realize that it is so important.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:To sit there and listen and move forward and put those things into action so that doesn't happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, it's definitely eye opening too, you know, and, and you know, when you, when you hear, hear your story or stories like yours, it really makes you think, like, like, okay, what am I, you know, where where could maybe I tighten up, you know, a little bit?
Speaker B:Maybe where I.
Speaker B:Where can I do better and things like that.
Speaker B:So, I mean, I, I, I'm glad that you came on and did this, and, And I hope you continue to tell this story.
Speaker B:I hope everybody always continues to tell their stories because, you know, sometimes it's just, you know, one.
Speaker B:You know, it just takes one story for somebody to hear and go, like, oh, yeah, you know, or, you know, maybe they had a near, you know, accident or fall or whatever that they just kind of brushed off.
Speaker B:But, you know, they hear story like yours, and they go, wow, like, mine could have been way worse or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, if we look at what the outcome is and where I am right now, if people really heard what I heard from people who saw the video, you know, that this conversation is just like I said, you know, they said it's a miracle, but this conversation is really one to just take in for anybody listening, because people thought I died that day, you know, and, and luckily, the people that thought that they called somebody was like, oh, actually, she's at home, like.
Speaker A:And so they.
Speaker A:But, I mean, it's.
Speaker A:To know that that's what the, what it looked like on the, the video is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Crazy to me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I have no idea.
Speaker A:All I know is I was up there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Were you, like, knocked out, or was it just like, you had the wind knocked out of you?
Speaker A:I know I had the wind knocked out of me.
Speaker A:The lady said it took me a little bit to come, too, so I don't know what that means.
Speaker A:I landed on my age.
Speaker A:Back, Back, head and neck, so who knows?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then Mason was just like, you landed like a pancake.
Speaker B:What's better than saying you landed like Peter Griffin, you know, whenever he falls on.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He was like, you land like a pancake.
Speaker A:And he's like, that lady.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:What did he say?
Speaker A:He goes, oh, that.
Speaker A:That lady mother birded you, is what he said.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:And I was like, that's a.
Speaker A:But I get it.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But it's called.
Speaker B:It's called cpr, Mason.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She was doing a sternal rug.
Speaker A:Everything's fine.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:But that there tells me, like, I was not breathing, you know, and her, like, when I met her and her husband, I met them that Friday after I fell because I wanted to thank them.
Speaker A:And I mean, of course, she was, like, in tears when she saw me, but she said that they heard me fall, they heard me, and then all of A sudden it was dead silent.
Speaker A:Like there was no sound.
Speaker A:And she was like, we ran so fast.
Speaker A:There I was on dock four, there on dock three.
Speaker A:And she said, by the time she got to me, I wasn't moving, I was unresponsive, I wasn't breathing.
Speaker A:And, And I was like, that's just wild.
Speaker A:Like, it's so.
Speaker A:A lot of the stuff that I know of, like what happened is because people have told me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or I was just thinking about dead fish between the dock and the boat.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:At least your first words when you came to was like, I didn't land on the dead fish, did I?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think my first words were, oh.
Speaker A:She's like, what?
Speaker A:She's like, what's your name?
Speaker A:And I was like, I was like, where am I?
Speaker A:And she's like, yeah, but what's your name?
Speaker A:And I was like, I told her my name, but I didn't.
Speaker A:It's just still crazy.
Speaker A:Like I didn't know my last name.
Speaker A:Like, who doesn't know their last name?
Speaker A:This one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's nuts, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm glad that you're still here with us.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you for reaching out to me and, and asking about coming on and talking about this because I think it's something that was or I think it's something that's definitely important to talk about.
Speaker B:So, you know, I'm glad that we were able to kind of talk a little bit at MTE and kind of, you know, get this, get this scheduled in and everything like that.
Speaker B:You know, I hope everybody that listens to this definitely, at least for the most part, just, you know, thinks a little bit more next time about, you know, doing some sketchy, you know, I mean, like, what's the tick tock thing?
Speaker B:Go to do some sketchy, sketchy, sketchy or whatever, you know, like, let's, let's not, let's not.
Speaker B:Let's be right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If anybody wants to reach out to you and maybe get some more information or just talk to you about like everything that happened, what's the best way for them to get a hold of you?
Speaker A:If, I mean, you can, you can reach me on my Instagram or Facebook, which is elite marine protection.
Speaker A:I, I mean, I have a website which will direct you to my Instagram or Facebook and that's just protection.com or if you really want to just, you feel like just buckling down and writing that thousand word essay to me, you can pop into my email and that's just Info.
Speaker A:Elite Marine Protection.com.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, that's awesome.
Speaker B:Well, listen, Angela, I appreciate you coming on and doing this.
Speaker B:It was definitely, definitely very interesting and.
Speaker B:And educational.
Speaker B:So it's made me think a little bit more.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, if you ever, you know, come up with, like, some new ideas or some.
Speaker B:Some new ways of doing things or something like that, and you want to come back on and kind of do like, a revisit or whatever, let me know.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And we could always kind of, you know, revisit, you know, maybe where you've made some tweaks or.
Speaker B:Or things of that nature, maybe learn some things or whatever that's a little bit different, that might help people out.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm always trying to figure out better ways anyway to do things, so.
Speaker B:No, that's awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Safer.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, well, listen, you enjoy the rest of your evening.
Speaker B:Again, thank you so much for doing this, and we'll chat soon.
Speaker A:All right, Sounds good.
Speaker A:Thanks for having me.
Speaker B:No problem.
Speaker B:Take care.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker B:Hey, don't go anywhere.
