Navigating Life's Waters: A Deep Dive into Personal and Professional Journeys
This podcast episode delves into the multifaceted challenges and triumphs encountered in the realm of detailing, particularly within the marine sector. The discussion is anchored by reflections on personal experiences, including the importance of resilience and adaptation in the face of adversity. Our conversation highlights the nuanced dynamics of pricing and competition in the detailing industry, underscoring the necessity for standardized rates to ensure equitable business practices. Additionally, we explore the significance of community and networking among detailers, as this fosters collaboration and growth within the profession. Ultimately, this episode serves as a testament to the shared journey of detailers navigating the complexities of their craft while striving for excellence and personal fulfillment.
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Transcript
Yo, yo, yo, what's up?
Speaker B:Can you hear me okay?
Speaker A:Yes sir, I can.
Speaker A:Can you hear me?
Speaker B:Yes sir.
Speaker A:How you doing?
Speaker B:Oh, I'm burnt out.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker B:Just life, relationships, work.
Speaker B:It's all taking its toll this spring.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it happens man.
Speaker B:It sure does.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Listen man, I don't know if I want to get it.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I was just thinking about.
Speaker B:What are we gonna talk about on this podcast?
Speaker B:Because life sucks.
Speaker A:But yeah, I mean it's not bad.
Speaker A:I mean we just, we just bought the kid a car and it's a little bit more money than I was thinking we'd spend, but this is, there's just nothing out there like you know, that you can get anymore that's cheap.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B: year ago and you remember the: Speaker B:It's ridiculous.
Speaker B:The, the little thousand dollar beaters just ain't out there anymore.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, no, and that's, that's the thing.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, I mean we obviously want her to have something that's reliable and, and everything.
Speaker A:And you know, we, we have Audis, so she's used to driving, driving the wife's SQ5, so you know, like the sporty utility.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she, she prefers that versus my car because it sits too low.
Speaker A:So you know, we were looking at a Q3, getting her to use Q3 and you know, we just, we couldn't really find one that was like under 25, you know, without it having crazy miles on it, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And so the, the dealership up the street where we get, where we bought all our cars because our, one of my buddies works there, they had, they had one, it was a 24.
Speaker A: I mean it's got like: Speaker A:But it was like a lease turn in.
Speaker A:Yeah, but like they dropped the price like like almost three grand.
Speaker A:And so we were like man, like really don't want to spend, you know, that money for it.
Speaker A:But it was like it's practically a brand new car.
Speaker A:Like it still has warranty on it.
Speaker A:Like it's in really nice shape.
Speaker A:Like so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So how many, how many miles are.
Speaker A: On it has: Speaker A:I mean now these Audi's, Audi's warranties to like 50.
Speaker A:And honestly dude, we can, we can, we can buy the extended Warranty for like $2,000.
Speaker A:It'll take it to like 75 or something like that.
Speaker A:So, you know, we'll probably just wait a little bit, buy the extended, get it to like 75 and then she'll have a car that, you know, can last her 10 years.
Speaker A:You know, realistically.
Speaker B:So is this the cheerleader?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She's my only one, so.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I didn't know if you had more than one.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Well, she did good in the cheerleading stuff, so little reward.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, that's, that's the thing.
Speaker A:I mean, she's, she does really well in school.
Speaker A:She does good with the cheerleading stuff.
Speaker A:And my parents had been putting money away for her to, to help us out by the car.
Speaker A:So like my parents gave us a big chunk of it.
Speaker A:So at the end of the day it wasn't, you know, too much on us to be able to buy.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, so that.
Speaker A:But that's just been my, like yesterday and today is realizing that I just bought a 15 year old, a newer car than I have technically because mine's a 23, 24.
Speaker B:It's crazy.
Speaker B:My nephews, they started driving and the cars they got.
Speaker B:It's like, ma' am, you guys didn't even have to work for these.
Speaker B:My, my first car, I had to buy.
Speaker B:I had to.
Speaker B:You buy it from grandma and then everything else from there, There was no more deals.
Speaker B:Grandma didn't give it to me.
Speaker B:I had to work for it.
Speaker B:And then that was the, that was the last free one.
Speaker B:They got it easy nowadays.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:It's a, It's a different world, man.
Speaker A:I mean, I remember totally.
Speaker A:I remember when I turned, when I turned 16 and started driving, I got my, my parents old car.
Speaker A:It was a 78 Dodge Colt, you know, so like, yeah, this was like.
Speaker A:And this was, let's see what I, I turned 16, would have been, would have been like, yeah, we don't want to say it.
Speaker A:Everybody knows I'm old.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:When I turned 16, it was late.
Speaker A:It would have been like 89, I think.
Speaker A:89?
Speaker A:Yeah, because I graduated in 91, so I would have been like 89.
Speaker A:So, you know, I got a 10 year old car that, you know, was.
Speaker A:Had a bunch of miles on it beat and everything.
Speaker A:So yeah, I was rolling around.
Speaker B:I was rolling around in an 84 Skylark.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:Thought I was God's gift of women in that car.
Speaker A:I remember one of my buddies, his first car when we were in high school, he had a Chevette and I remember he used to, he used to walk around all the time.
Speaker A:Like, like boys taking the vet out this weekend.
Speaker B:I had a buddy that had one too.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He didn't have that really any shocks in the front of it and it was a stick shift, so he'd do the clutch and it looked like he had hydraulics in the front every time he left school.
Speaker B:Those were fun cars though.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, those, those and the Omnis.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Remember that?
Speaker B:Yeah, those were.
Speaker B:Those were fun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean that was when you could beat on cars a little bit and do stupid in the parking lot when you're a teenager, you know.
Speaker A:Now, now you can't do any of that stuff, so.
Speaker A:Which is good.
Speaker B:Well, you gotta live a little.
Speaker B:I mean some of the stuff you can get out of hand, like them takeovers and stuff, but little burnouts never hurt.
Speaker B:Nobody teaches you how to handle your car.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's too many.
Speaker B:There's too many cameras and Karens around nowadays.
Speaker A:I know, I know.
Speaker B:I couldn't imagine even the innocent stuff.
Speaker B:Well, innocent stuff that we did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Back in the day, man.
Speaker B:Nowadays.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:There's no way you could do that stuff now.
Speaker A:And it's hard too because I mean, you know, all three of our cars are Audi, so they're, they're Quattro, so you can't, you can't peel out or do burnouts or, you know, any of that stuff.
Speaker B:Not at all.
Speaker B:There's no way to turn that stuff off.
Speaker A:Nah, nah.
Speaker A:Mine, my.
Speaker A:Well, I can't do a burnout, but so my RS3, you can actually like change.
Speaker A:There's a torque differential select, so you can actually switch it and.
Speaker A:And it'll actually kind of go into like what they call a drift mode so that you could technically like drift the car.
Speaker A:Like the ASIN could get a little happy, but you're not, you're not spinning tires or doing burnouts or whatever.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, is what it is.
Speaker A:Culture is all.
Speaker A:At least it's safe.
Speaker A:At least she'll.
Speaker A:She'll have.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:All four wheels firmly planted on the ground when she's driving.
Speaker A:At least.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Where do you, where do you live at?
Speaker B:You got winter.
Speaker B:No, I mean snow.
Speaker A:So dude, we, we have summer and then we have more summer and then we have extra summer because I'm.
Speaker A:I'm in Orlando.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:So watch out.
Speaker A:Summer all year long.
Speaker A:Did.
Speaker A:I got in the car.
Speaker A:We went grocery shopping.
Speaker A:Me and the wife went grocery shopping today.
Speaker A:Dude, it was 5:30 and I got in the car and the thermal, the, the temperature reading on the car is at 100 degrees.
Speaker B:It's June here.
Speaker B:And we.
Speaker B:We got to 71 today.
Speaker B:And it lasted for like 30 seconds.
Speaker B:The summer.
Speaker B:Summer has not come to Michigan yet.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm jealous because it.
Speaker A:I don't think it.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:It might have been like 71 at like 3am or something like that.
Speaker B:That's how it was in Houston.
Speaker B:I liked it, though.
Speaker B:And the breeze picked up.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker B:I can't do this weather anymore.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:How was that, by the way?
Speaker A:Because you went to the shine time thing, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, it was good.
Speaker A:Was it cool that.
Speaker B:That location?
Speaker B:That location is awesome.
Speaker B:That's a nice place to ask.
Speaker A:I saw some of the videos.
Speaker A:It was really cool with, like, all the planes and.
Speaker A:And stuff that they were having.
Speaker A:It's funny, like, when I talked to Bob Rasman like a month ago or whatever, he was talking about, like, a big car show.
Speaker A:And I never saw anybody post anything about the car show.
Speaker A:It was all the planes.
Speaker B:They didn't.
Speaker B:I guess I.
Speaker B:I don't know if it was the cars and coffee or whatever, but it ended up having such a big turnout the first day.
Speaker B:They thought everybody would come the next day, and they didn't.
Speaker B:You know, it's one of the things that happens.
Speaker B:When I had my open house, nothing went right.
Speaker B:None of the food trucks showed up, you know, so you can't plan everything they had.
Speaker B:I don't remember how many it was, but, you know, you could take the rides in the planes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When it came down to the event, there were only two planes available, but.
Speaker B:Okay, I didn't do it.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:With the way things have been going, you don't even want to know.
Speaker B:The week leading up to that show, I almost didn't go.
Speaker B:I thought it was gonna be bad luck if I got on the plane.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's how last week was.
Speaker B:And, you know, before that, it started that this whole spring launch season sucked.
Speaker B:But last week, just marinas, they don't forget plugs and boats.
Speaker B:It hasn't happened here in 15 years.
Speaker B:At least that I know.
Speaker B:The last time it happened was 12 years ago, and it was a wood boat.
Speaker B:They didn't leave it in the hoist long enough.
Speaker B:But that wasn't even the marina's fault.
Speaker B:The owner said, yeah, it's ready, and it wasn't.
Speaker B:But, oh, everything.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Just countless things.
Speaker B:And then they put the boat in.
Speaker B:They didn't come and get me.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Eclipse was walking by.
Speaker B:They didn't come and get me.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They come in and I'm.
Speaker B:I'm cleaning up the tires on the jet skis that were in here, and they're like, we launched a boat for you.
Speaker B:Like, great, I'll get to it, you know, when I get to it.
Speaker B:Well, luckily, my nephew showed up and around lunchtime, and we shot the.
Speaker B:I was like, while you're here, give me a hand moving the boat.
Speaker B:We walk out there, and the sunk.
Speaker B:Oh, my.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Of all the.
Speaker B:Everything else that could go on, something that never happens in this industry happens to me and my client.
Speaker B:All this is the Right before a plane's taken off for Houston.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, I almost.
Speaker B:I was like, there's.
Speaker B:There's no way I should get on this plane.
Speaker B:This is turning into final destination.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And as soon as the plane lifts off, man, it sounds like the timing chain fell off of it.
Speaker B:I don't know if the motor dropping vibrant.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, I just rolled my eyes.
Speaker A:Oh, man, here we go.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So how did they get the boat out?
Speaker B:Well, I caught.
Speaker B:I mean, it wasn't a total loss ahead.
Speaker B:I got it out.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The engine wasn't under.
Speaker B:Cabin wasn't full of water yet, so.
Speaker B:But it sat out there for 20, 25 minutes.
Speaker B:We can water out of both villages and the drain in the back.
Speaker B:But it's, you know, it's like, how do you miss it?
Speaker B:I had it sitting there, so they don't miss it, but that's something they check anyway.
Speaker B:It was right there on the outdrive.
Speaker B:You couldn't miss it.
Speaker B:When they were lifting that back out, I went to the shop and grabbed my pliers because I knew exactly where that plug was going to be.
Speaker B:And as the boat came.
Speaker B:Came up, I held the pliers, and I was like.
Speaker B:And the one guy whose job is to check it, I held the plug.
Speaker B:Once I grabbed it, he wouldn't look me in the eyes.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker B:I talked to the landlord when we got back, and I had a meeting with him.
Speaker B:If anything's wrong with the boat, it's all covered.
Speaker B:No, I kept it quiet, Alex.
Speaker B:It was literally, if that.
Speaker B:If I decided to do that, at the end of the day, I'm on a busy river, and I got a bar across the river.
Speaker B:There would have been boats going up and down.
Speaker B:I would have saw that boat on Facebook.
Speaker B:Like, look, somebody's boat sinking on the Clinton River.
Speaker B:Oh, what?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's how I would have found out about it.
Speaker B:So, yeah, there was A big talk when we got back here.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah, one.
Speaker B:I should have been president.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, at least it sounds like it wasn't terrible.
Speaker A:At least.
Speaker B:I mean, no, but, but they're boats, man, you know, and if something on the inside wasn't supposed to get wet and it got wet, that can just add up.
Speaker B:So I wanted to make sure because, you know, some things like that don't poke their head right away.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, it takes, take some time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You get that water and a little bit of grease and let it wear through.
Speaker B:So it's all good.
Speaker B:I got a good relationship with the, the owner of this place.
Speaker B:But the marina yard guys, man, there's no respect.
Speaker B:And that just proved it right there.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:So, so you, you primarily work out of a marina?
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm in marina.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B: I, it, I, long story short,: Speaker B:But I was so excited, I was so excited about it.
Speaker B:I didn't measure the doors or anything.
Speaker B:I couldn't get nothing.
Speaker B:I couldn't get nothing but jet boats and bass boats in there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Anything with a tower or an arch wasn't coming in.
Speaker B:Anything slightly over eight and a half wasn't coming in.
Speaker B:So I, I partnered up with a car guy and he did the cars.
Speaker B:And here's the shop I'm renting and I'm doing them all outside.
Speaker B:So 08 economy crash and all that went back to just mobile and that's how I was gonna retire out of this.
Speaker B:But the shop opened up in a marina with hoist.
Speaker B:I got everything here.
Speaker B:Oh, nice to get the boats in and out.
Speaker B:So there's, there's no hold ups now when I started doing the coatings and the serious correction, I would book them all for mid to late summer when all the fiberglass shops, when everybody else is slow and their shops are empty, I would rent a shop space from them.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:One of, one of the clients that had to do that, it bounced between three shops because they would change it on me and then it was a two week delay ultimately.
Speaker B:And she, she's like, you just gotta do it.
Speaker B:Because she, she seen the hassle it was trying to get indoor space.
Speaker B:Doing it the way I was doing it.
Speaker B:She's like, just do it.
Speaker B:You know, See what happened.
Speaker B:I didn't, I didn't want the overhead and all that.
Speaker B:I was real scared.
Speaker B:And I shit you not, two months after the first two months were great.
Speaker B:June comes.
Speaker B:Not one call, one text, one email, one Facebook message.
Speaker B:Nothing about actual work.
Speaker B:And I was like, now what do I do?
Speaker B:A whole month goes by phone, don't ring.
Speaker B:And I just opened up.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:You know, so, yeah.
Speaker A:You know, it is.
Speaker A:I mean I, I found a little shop that's perfect for me.
Speaker A:It's a little 600 square foot shop.
Speaker A:You know, the door is like nine foot wide, so I can get, you know, just about, you know, anything up, you know, dualies and stuff in there.
Speaker A:You know, I can't get like big things because it's not a tall, you know.
Speaker A:So I always tell people, like, it's.
Speaker A:If it can fit in my shop, I'll do it because anything that's too big to fit in my shop, I really don't want to do anyways.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Boats, buses and.
Speaker A:Yeah, but dude, that's, that's kind of how I am.
Speaker A:Like, you know, like I, I didn't really ever want the big overhead because you know, what if.
Speaker A:And, and I always tell people with having a small shop and having.
Speaker A:It's, it's.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:The brand is super cheap.
Speaker A:And I always tell people the, the beauty of keeping my overhead so low is I don't have to make a lot of money to make money.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A: plus like I have: Speaker A:So, you know, I have a seven thousand dollar month and I'm golden, you know, like.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know, I'm good, right.
Speaker A:You know, so I, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm the same way.
Speaker B:It, it's a.
Speaker B:Well, people that have seen it, I, I don't think it's that big because I'm always in the, you know, the buildings that hold boats.
Speaker B:But everybody, it's a really good shop and I'm.
Speaker B:Same way.
Speaker B:It's cheap.
Speaker B:It's cheap.
Speaker B:You would if you knew how much I paid for this.
Speaker A:Yeah, it.
Speaker B:One boat full correction and coding will cover this and I'll have money in my pocket, so.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I got, I got lucky.
Speaker B:And, and it's all utilities, which you know how important that is.
Speaker B:Yep, all utilities are included.
Speaker A:That's how my, that's how mine is.
Speaker A:So like I, I've said it before, so I don't have any problem saying it.
Speaker A:Dude.
Speaker A:I pay 400amonth, including utilities for my Little garage space, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, dude, you know, you.
Speaker A:One, One interior detail covers that, you know, like.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that's the other thing.
Speaker A:Like I set it up to.
Speaker A:I've got like six or seven of my clients that I set them up on monthly services.
Speaker A:So like every.
Speaker A:Every Friday I go and I take care of their cars.
Speaker A:So every, Every first Friday of the month, I'm collecting checks from them.
Speaker A:And that, that first Friday covers probably half of my overhead, you know.
Speaker A:So like first Friday of the month, I've got half of my bills for the month paid for, you know.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:Yeah, I.
Speaker B:I have almost a similar.
Speaker B:I do weekly maintenance on.
Speaker B:On the boats.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And it's pretty much now I build a monthly.
Speaker B:When just them washes from Thursday, it depends.
Speaker B:They're mainly on Friday, but we'll say Thursdays and Fridays.
Speaker B:Just the washes from that right now cover when I.
Speaker B:What I need to be covered.
Speaker B:And those aren't.
Speaker B:I'm backing out.
Speaker B:You know, they're all scheduled.
Speaker B:You're getting billed regardless.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The only way it doesn't get washed is if they're going out on it or it's raining.
Speaker B:When it's raining, they expect you to come back.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I got a good relationship.
Speaker B:I don't do thousands of boat washes.
Speaker B:It's mainly just my customers.
Speaker B:But I finally got it where, yes, nothing else needs to come in now.
Speaker B:It's not going to bring in a lot of money.
Speaker B:But everything's covered just from the washes that are scheduled each month.
Speaker B:That part's covered.
Speaker B:The reoccurring stuff now has reoccurring income.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And it's great too, because those are the people that you build the relationship with the most.
Speaker A:So, you know, you're seeing it on a regular basis.
Speaker A:Like, you know, for me, when it's cars and most of them are.
Speaker B:Are.
Speaker A:Have already been ceramic coated by me, you know.
Speaker A:But the, the beauty of it is, is it's like, you know, hey, it's been a while since we.
Speaker A:Since last time we did the inside, you know, like, you know, why don't we get you scheduled in the shop for the inside.
Speaker A:So I just had one of my clients today.
Speaker A:He's like, he's like, hey, man.
Speaker A:He's like, he's like, it's been two years since I got this.
Speaker A:And he goes, he goes, we haven't done the interior in a while.
Speaker A:And at first I was like, two years.
Speaker A:Like, you just, you just got this thing.
Speaker A:He goes, yeah, two years ago in June 23.
Speaker A:And I'm like, my God, has it been two years already?
Speaker A:And he goes, yeah, you know, and so he's like.
Speaker A:He's like, it's been a while since we've done the inside.
Speaker A:He's like, can we get the inside?
Speaker A:I'm like, let's do it.
Speaker A:Like, you know, what day next week?
Speaker A:He's like, going to the beach, you know, this weekend.
Speaker A:You know, like, let's do it later in the week.
Speaker A:I was like, perfect.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:I got Thursday open.
Speaker A:He goes, awesome.
Speaker A:So, like, that's the thing I like about it is you see them on a regular enough basis, you build that.
Speaker A:That, you know, friendship repertoire with them.
Speaker A:And it's easier to sell them on interior services.
Speaker A:It's easier to, you know, hey, your other cars look like they need to be done, like, why don't we get those scheduled in?
Speaker A:You know, and it's, you know.
Speaker A:You know, like you said, the reoccurring business makes reoccurring business.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think.
Speaker A:I think that's a.
Speaker A:That's one of the smartest things I think I did, you know, kind of stealing that.
Speaker A:That model from when I left the car wash, because, you know, when we were selling monthly services at the car wash, I remember the.
Speaker A:The owner, because him and I were.
Speaker A:We're pretty good friends, and we'd worked together over many, many years.
Speaker A:And, you know, I remember when that whole business model started in the car wash game.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And we were doing it, he's like.
Speaker A:He's like, look, man, he's like, we sell, like, X amount of these.
Speaker A:And he goes, you know, because it's all credit card charges or whatever.
Speaker A:He goes, the first, right before we even open the doors.
Speaker A:We've already covered, you know, the month of, you know, the months, overhead, the payroll, the insurance, the.
Speaker A:The mortgage on the build.
Speaker A:Like, he's like, we've done all that before.
Speaker A:We turned the first.
Speaker A:So that was one of the things.
Speaker A:Once I got kind of established and people were asking me about, you know, doing regular washes, I was like, like, I can't do the car wash, where you can come every day if you want.
Speaker A:But I was like, we'll do it as a monthly service.
Speaker A:I'll do.
Speaker A:I'll do it all on Friday, so the cars are clean for the weekend.
Speaker A:You know, I'll charge you X amount of dollars, you know, for the month.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's awesome, dude.
Speaker A:Like, you know, again, like I said, most of the cars are coated already.
Speaker A:They're they're, you know, empty nesters.
Speaker A:So they don't have, you know, little kids in the back with food and glitter and all that stuff.
Speaker A:So, you know, like, I pull up to the house and I'm like 35, 40 minutes from the time I pull up to the time I'm driving away, you know, making 50 bucks every, every Friday off of them, you know, so like.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna complain about that.
Speaker A:And I, you know, line.
Speaker A: , $: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:For easy, you know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that, that's just it.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Get the easy work.
Speaker B:Well, I, I got it now.
Speaker B:I'm not like today I didn't go out and wash boats.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I got trained them, they can go out and watch.
Speaker B:You know, we're not dealing with all the coatings and stuff.
Speaker B:It's just washing boats.
Speaker B:So show them how now I don't have to go out and do that on my Friday.
Speaker B:Thursdays and Fridays.
Speaker A:No, that's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Get somebody else to do it for you.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker B:It takes up a lot of time when you have boats in the shop and you got to go out and wash, you know, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, intend to do it.
Speaker A:I saw the, I saw one of your videos today.
Speaker A:I don't know if it was.
Speaker A:I don't know if it's that boat you're working on behind you, but you were doing like a full sand job on the side of, of the boat in that one video.
Speaker A:You, you like I said, I don't know if you posted that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's the one behind me.
Speaker B:It's done now.
Speaker B:I, I don't.
Speaker B:I've been trying to catch up on some of the content.
Speaker B:The phone's full.
Speaker B:Said I can't do anymore, so I had to lift them up together earlier, but I'd say 80 of everything that comes out of here sanded.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No bullshit.
Speaker B:We're going for perfection.
Speaker B:And what I'm getting, what I'm selling them on is we don't.
Speaker B:We're not doing this every year anymore.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And when they sign up for the, the maintenance, I will honor my own.
Speaker B:It don't matter the coding.
Speaker B:I'm using my own 12 month, like 12 month in water.
Speaker B:So if you do six months this year and six in the water, as long as I'm maintaining it minimum monthly and it's the Same as the weekly say, say it's 100 bucks a week to wash your boat.
Speaker B:You do it monthly.
Speaker B:Well, it's 400.
Speaker B:It's, it's not 100 hours.
Speaker B:Once a month, it's 400 because it's just, it takes four times as long.
Speaker B:I learned that a long time ago.
Speaker B:It's been sitting, getting dirty all that time.
Speaker B:Actually it almost takes longer.
Speaker B:So either way, if you want a warranty and I, I will probably because I'm on your boat constantly.
Speaker B:I see if something's failing or whatever that's part of the deal, I'll fix it there.
Speaker B:So they're getting the life out of the boat and I'm getting the, the guaranteed income on it until they cancel the wash.
Speaker B:But I, it don't matter what code on a boat.
Speaker B:Any coding can say so and so many years.
Speaker B:The real world's different.
Speaker B:And I, if I'm not on it constantly, I don't know what they're doing or what.
Speaker B:We got Air Force base right right here next to the water and the marinas along the, the flight path for the Runway and the other marina where they do all their bank turns them, them boats are covered with soot from the jets.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:People don't realize that, but it's a real thing.
Speaker B:Those, those boats in them spots, they get, they get beat on.
Speaker B:So the one marina I won't even, I won't offer coding if you're in that marina.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I did it once and it's constant failure.
Speaker B:It's always clogged and you know, you can't charge people thousands of dollars and have issues like that.
Speaker B:So I just not going to do it in that marina.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker A:And one of the things that I'm, I'm kind of learning, you know, with, with Aquatech as.
Speaker A:Because we, we're kind of like, you know, because like you reached out right.
Speaker A:Like, hey, do you guys have a marine?
Speaker A:Like we get, we get people that are asking that and I mean we have our, our singular can be used on marine and it will hold up and everything.
Speaker A:But like we've started looking into like the possibility of, of doing a marine coating.
Speaker A:And the one thing I've kind of learned, learning that's different with marine coatings is a lot of them go seasons versus years because in the, the marine world it, it is a season that the boats either in the water, on the water versus years.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And right.
Speaker A:So like that's another thing.
Speaker A:Like we, we've been kind of looking at is like, okay, like, you know, so if we do come out with something now we have to figure out like do we say years or do we say seasons?
Speaker A:And if we say seasons, like how long is a season?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's, I mean, it's still the same approach, but I, I think they're a little more realistic with how Stark says their, their longevity.
Speaker B:They do it by months, like 12 to 18 months, which if you ask them more, breaks it down into like six month seasons.
Speaker B:Yeah, but they're, they're in Florida and the salt water and all the sun, you know, it beats the boat so that they, they don't even really say how long it lasts.
Speaker B:But that's their general.
Speaker B:They don't do the whole years.
Speaker B:They go by months.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's more realistic with boats.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's one of the things, like I was talking with Rasheed, which actually, by the way, he texted me earlier when we started this, so he said to tell you.
Speaker A:Hey, hey, hey, Rashid.
Speaker A:Yeah, if he's listening.
Speaker B:I love him, man.
Speaker A:I do too.
Speaker A:But yeah, I mean, I, you know, I've been kind of picking his brain a little bit, just getting some feedback and then, and then also I have a real good relationship with Angela out and, and where's Angela?
Speaker A:Out in the Pacific Northwest, you know, so I've been talking to her about it, trying to get some info, you know, if it's something we do.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's, it's, it's definitely like, I think, I think it kind of depends on the detailers.
Speaker A:Some of them are, you know, a season is six months, some of them is a season is all year, you know, so whatever.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it's, it's, it's interesting, you know, when you get into, to the different types of, of coatings and everything and, and how things work and, and it's crazy too because like, I never really paid attention much to, to marine detailing, you know, and then, you know, becoming friends with Rasheed and, and Angela, you know, talking to you a little bit.
Speaker A:I've got another buddy that does some boats, you know, not, not, not all the time, but he does them, you know, pretty regularly.
Speaker A:And it's just, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a different world because I don't do this like, you know, I don't, I don't do them.
Speaker A:I don't choose to do them.
Speaker A:I don't really want to do them, you know, but if somebody calls me, he's like, hey, I got A boat.
Speaker A:I'm like, I hate turning away money, you know, like, right, that's, that's how.
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Speaker B:Yeah, that's how I can do this.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I'm exactly the opposite.
Speaker B:This is all I've been doing.
Speaker B:Cars are the other way.
Speaker B:My back hurts after I do a car and you know, oh God, I gotta do an interior and oh, now, yeah, I'm the same way.
Speaker B:I throw me a 60 foot Sunseeker and I'll smile.
Speaker B:Yeah, dude, show me a black Suburban and I'm like, come on, you know.
Speaker A:What made you, what made you want to like go the marine route?
Speaker A:I mean, did you grow up more around boats and, and dealing with boats than cars or like, you know, how.
Speaker B:Was that growing up?
Speaker B:My, my grandparents, they had boats and my uncle.
Speaker B:So I, I grew up around it.
Speaker B:But I was so young, I don't remember it much, but I'm right by the water.
Speaker B:They're all around and I got a Honda Spree and then I got a little 15 foot boat.
Speaker B:I got the boat before I got my first car and I've been, I've been hooked ever since.
Speaker B:It used to be just a little island hopper.
Speaker B:Somebody buy us beer and we'd go out and spend a weekend there.
Speaker B:But late teens, early 20s, got a boat that is worth waxing now.
Speaker B:So we, I used to build lowriders and all that stuff and we all had paint jobs and we would take care of them.
Speaker B:Couple buddies worked at the Auto one, or was it Auto one, Auto one and Z Barts and Stuff.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker B:We were always throwing around the polishers and stuff.
Speaker B:But I called around, not realizing the gel coat paint difference.
Speaker B:I was just assumed it's completely different.
Speaker B:So I called around to see how much it was to get the boat done.
Speaker B:And I said, nah, I'll do it myself.
Speaker B:And a couple people said, it looks good.
Speaker B:I did a couple more boats and started doing it strictly bolts full time around 97.
Speaker B:Started Mike's Marine Care in 98.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:So you've been doing it for a minute then.
Speaker B:17 is when I.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Well, 17 is the first boat.
Speaker B:I did 18, got my first job doing it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm 48.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's been a long time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And it is literally the only thing I stuck with that I'm good at in my life.
Speaker B:Even with drinking and all that stuff.
Speaker B:I never.
Speaker B:I never tarnished my name in this industry because I'm always out on the water.
Speaker B:I run into my customers.
Speaker B:You know, you see them in the bays and stuff.
Speaker B:And, you know, when I drank, I mean, that's where the captain sure get.
Speaker B:Everybody used to call me Shorgasm or Captain Shasm, because that was a whole different entity out there.
Speaker B:So, I mean, everybody knew the face.
Speaker B:I kind of fell down the hole there, Put myself trying to find rock bottom and just could never find.
Speaker B:Find the right one, you know.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Each.
Speaker B:Each bottom I found had more to dig in.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B: ith Calypso and in January of: Speaker B:No more drinking, whatever happens, no more.
Speaker B:And I've been done since.
Speaker A:Dude, that's awesome, man.
Speaker A:I'm glad.
Speaker B:It used to be a crutch.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's why everything now with the business and stuff is like, I don't have that fallback.
Speaker B:And this is the first time I'm really dealing with real pressures, you know, of like.
Speaker B:Like leading up the last five years.
Speaker B:I guess every time you run into a new thing, it's like, oh, I've never been tested like this, but from all angles this time, it's just hit me.
Speaker B:And I'm proud that the only drinking I thought about is that I'm not thinking about drinking.
Speaker B:It's not like there's an out, because I know what will happen.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I was not the one that I needed it to function.
Speaker B:I was the one if.
Speaker B:If it hit my lips, I Didn't stop.
Speaker B:And who knows what happens, you know, blacking out.
Speaker B:That I would drink the black out, basically.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:I could maintain it.
Speaker B:I could go out with my customers, have a couple beers at whatever, lunch or dinner or on the dock with them.
Speaker B:It's, it just wasn't enough.
Speaker B:So by the time I get home, you know, bring a bottle home and just drink it.
Speaker B:And that was a vicious cycle.
Speaker B:And that's essentially why I can't, I can't drink no more anymore.
Speaker B:I don't have another restart in me.
Speaker B:It's, that's all gone.
Speaker B:Five years ago.
Speaker B:Five years ago, I was.
Speaker B:This started in 16.
Speaker B:I went to rehab and met the wrong woman, let's just say.
Speaker B:And we've all been there, that I just.
Speaker A:We've all been.
Speaker B:Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't so much her.
Speaker B:I'm not blaming her.
Speaker B:It's just the lifestyle.
Speaker B:It turned right back into the party mode, and there was no escaping it.
Speaker B:And we, we got to, I, well, I got to a point.
Speaker B:Hell, my truck had just broke down.
Speaker B:The alternator went on Christmas Eve, and I knew I had to get out of that situation.
Speaker B:So I packed everything in in my Navigator, packed the dog up, and we stayed in that for almost four months with no alternator.
Speaker B:I, I, I could go about 20 minutes or 20 miles per charge, that I did.
Speaker B:And that's what we did.
Speaker B:And we would.
Speaker B:Yeah, but that was the only way I could get sober.
Speaker B:I was facing court and jail time and, you know, you name it.
Speaker B:So we, we did what we had to do.
Speaker B:And then they put me away for a little bit.
Speaker B:I got out.
Speaker B:I was on the water within five hours of getting out of jail.
Speaker B:And summer's here now, so I started captaining jobs.
Speaker B:I had an alcohol tether on.
Speaker B:Everybody wanted me as their captain because they knew I wasn't gonna drink.
Speaker B:I, I thought it was going to be a hindrance.
Speaker B:I had more captain jobs that summer than I have ever.
Speaker A:And since, I mean, that's good.
Speaker B:It's amazing.
Speaker A:It's silver linings, I guess, you know, like, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:Well, you know the same thing.
Speaker B:Everybody's like, oh, you're on the water around all that alcohol, you're going to relapse.
Speaker B:I'll be honest with you, Alice.
Speaker B:It was the best thing for me because I live out there.
Speaker B:That's my life.
Speaker B:And one, to know I can do it without the beer.
Speaker B:That's great to know.
Speaker B:2.
Speaker B:I never, I've never enjoyed boating or hanging out in the base as much as I do sober.
Speaker B:It's fun.
Speaker B:It's still fun without drinking.
Speaker B:And I remember it all.
Speaker B:I can remember what happened.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm happy for you, man.
Speaker A:I'm glad that.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:You had a turnaround and.
Speaker A:And thankfully it didn't take, like, something extremely drastic or deadly.
Speaker A:Well, whatever.
Speaker B:Five DUIs, that's pretty drastic.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, that last one was number five.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker B:I'm grateful of that every day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The only.
Speaker B:The only real damage I did with all was to myself.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:I didn't hurt nobody, you know, and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That I'm thankful for.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:Hang on a second.
Speaker A:Can you move?
Speaker A:Can you move, please?
Speaker A:Like, the cat is all over my stuff.
Speaker B:It's because we're doing this.
Speaker B:Calypso never walks right in front of me in the coffee table.
Speaker B:But because this is here, of course she has to.
Speaker B:Yeah, she passed out now.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I guess I didn't close the door all the way.
Speaker A:So she came in here before I came in the podcast.
Speaker A:So when I came in the podcast, she likes to.
Speaker A:There's a little window right over here to my right, and she likes just sitting in the windowsill and watching the bugs or the lizards or, you know, whatever.
Speaker A:And so when I came in, I was like, close the door.
Speaker A:And I'm like, all right, well, you're stuck in here with me.
Speaker A:So now she's like, keeps crawling all over the.
Speaker A:The table here, and I just don't want her to step on something and mute or disconnect this or whatever, you know, she was.
Speaker A:She was like.
Speaker A:Like, right when I said that, she was kind of stepping over my mixing board, and so I wanted to make sure she didn't knock anything or pull anything out or whatever.
Speaker A:She's a.
Speaker A:She's a good kitty.
Speaker A:But, yeah, dude, that.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker A:That's awesome, man, for you.
Speaker A:Like I.
Speaker A:Like I said, man, I'm really, really happy for you that you had that, you know, turn around and it's been super positive for you and everything.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's cool, man.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's good that you're actually being able to enjoy being on the water now so much.
Speaker B:So much more.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It's one of.
Speaker B:You hear it in rehab or whatever.
Speaker B:I mean, with the Internet, people have seen memes are about it, but you always hear people do it.
Speaker B:It's easy one day at a time.
Speaker B:But when you're in that spot you can't picture.
Speaker B:You can't picture a year down the road, five years down the road.
Speaker B:Like I would never pictured I'd actually have a shop again.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know that, that actually had work and I know, I know none of this would have happened if I kept drinking.
Speaker B:Actually I.
Speaker B:I probably wouldn't even be here.
Speaker B:It was getting to that point.
Speaker B:If I didn't do.
Speaker B:So yeah.
Speaker B:If I didn't do something dumb to kill myself.
Speaker B:I was so miserable.
Speaker B:I probably would have off myself because I thought about it a couple times.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Addiction and depression, man.
Speaker B:They're no joke.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So do you, do you like have support with it now or.
Speaker A:I mean, is it one of those things that's kind of like cold turkey and you just.
Speaker B:It was cold.
Speaker B:Cold turkey.
Speaker B:I mean I.
Speaker B:I was facing.
Speaker B:And over the years from all the other court ordered stuff.
Speaker B:I know that AA don't work me.
Speaker B:I have my own way.
Speaker B:I've never liked being tired.
Speaker B:Told what to do.
Speaker B:So you're telling me not to drink.
Speaker B:I just want to do it more this.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I've come.
Speaker B:I've realized that the only way you're gonna quit an addiction is if you.
Speaker B:You yourself truly want to.
Speaker B:Because 20 years I've done quarter this court ordered that.
Speaker B:Appeasing mom appeasing the girlfriend doing it.
Speaker B:You know, I didn't want to.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I did stop.
Speaker B:I have plenty of times.
Speaker B:I had nine months like.
Speaker B:But it wasn't for me.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You wanted me to quit drinking and you know, slipped up this time.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I just, I said I'm not gonna.
Speaker B:I'm done with this.
Speaker B:And yeah.
Speaker B:It's just that mindset and it actually.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't even think about it.
Speaker B:I really, you know, going anywhere that had a pool table, like.
Speaker B:Oh, never played that sober.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I don't.
Speaker B:And I don't.
Speaker B:I hit a lot better when I got a buzz.
Speaker B:Go figure.
Speaker B:I can't play full sober for.
Speaker B:But it's you.
Speaker B:You get the right mindset and it, it doesn't even bother you.
Speaker B:But I understand the whole addiction thing because I can't get rid of cigarettes, man.
Speaker B:I've tried so many times.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna stop trying.
Speaker B:One day it'll kick, but it ain't been easy.
Speaker B:I can't just say I'm done with these and put them down.
Speaker B:They got a hold on me.
Speaker B:I wish I never picked these up.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker A:Listen man, I.
Speaker A:I hope for your sake you you do one day put them down.
Speaker A:I mean, I, I've, I've seen, you know, plenty of people who didn't and, you know, lose their lives kind of early to cancer or whatever.
Speaker A:You know, I've seen my dad was a smoker, you know, his whole life, you know, and, and, you know, I've seen, like, how it's really affected his, his health and, and his decline, you know, now that he's getting older and, you know, he's, he's had a bunch of, you know, heart attacks and things like that.
Speaker A:And a lot of that was, you know, attributed to, you know, the smoking, you know, some of it to just, you know, kind of unhealthy eating habits and whatnot.
Speaker A:But, you know, as, as he's gotten older and, and everything because of the smoking, the doctors are like, you know, your heart just really isn't producing as much.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, like, he can't go five steps and he's got to, like, stop, and he's out of breath.
Speaker A:He's, you know, on oxygen now, so.
Speaker A:And we know that that's all from smart smoking.
Speaker A:So, you know, I, I, I, I see people who smoke, and I'm just like, man, like, you know, I wish I could stop, you know, so I, I hope for your sake one day you can so that, you know, maybe you don't have, you know, those issues later on or don't, you know, get a cancer or something like that.
Speaker A:The hardest to get to kick it.
Speaker B:And all the stuff that they teach you about the chemicals, it's the most addictive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Chemical that's known.
Speaker B:And, and I get that, but I, I heard you talk about your dad on another podcast.
Speaker B:How's he doing?
Speaker A:I mean, he's all right, but, you know, like I said, I mean it.
Speaker A:I mean, I think, like, I think the last time my mom was talking about it, like, they went to the doctor, like, his, his heart is basically, like, working at 25 capacity.
Speaker A:So that's, that's why, like, he can't, you know, walk very far.
Speaker A:And then, of course, my dad's just, you know, typical stubborn male.
Speaker A:You know, he's got a walker.
Speaker A:You know, he's got a walker.
Speaker A:But anytime, like, we go anywhere, you know, go anywhere with them, or he comes over here like he refuses to use the walker.
Speaker A:You know, like, we'll go to.
Speaker A:They'll come over here and we'll go to dinner.
Speaker A:You know, my mom's, like, telling the hostess, like, you know, you got a table real close, because he can't walk far.
Speaker A:And I'm like, go get his walker out of the car.
Speaker A:Then, you know, like, stop being macho man.
Speaker A:Like, you know, at home when nobody's around, he.
Speaker A:You know, he uses his oxygen and.
Speaker A:And all that stuff because of.
Speaker A:Because he just doesn't breathe very well, like, his lung capacity, his heart and all that stuff.
Speaker A:But, you know, like, he comes over here and he won't put his oxygen on.
Speaker A:He won't wear it.
Speaker A:You know, he doesn't want to, like, show, I guess, that weakness or whatever.
Speaker A:So, like, he just sits there and he's just like, you know, you just can't catch his breath.
Speaker A:Dad, Just put your oxygen on.
Speaker A:Like, you know, like, you don't have to, like, you know, be Superman anymore.
Speaker A:You know, like, I understand you're.
Speaker A:You're not well.
Speaker A:So, you know, I mean, I.
Speaker A:I think it's one of those things where, you know, I hate to say it, and.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And hopefully I don't get too emotional this.
Speaker A:But I mean, like, you know, it's.
Speaker A:It's tough, dude, because, you know, he's my dad, you know, And I mean, like, we went out to dinner with them, like, two weeks ago.
Speaker A:I think it was like, they came.
Speaker A:They came to Haley's cheerleading and.
Speaker A:Or, like, one of her practices.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And so we all went to dinner, and me and my dad were kind of talking afterwards, and he's like, you know, he's like, I go to bed every night and, like, is this the night that I don't wake up?
Speaker A:I'm like, dude, like, don't.
Speaker A:Don't tell me that.
Speaker A:Like, you know, like, you know, so.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, the.
Speaker A:The doctor.
Speaker A:The doctor says he's probably still got, you know, at least one or two years left, but I don't know.
Speaker A:He acts like, you know, the end is near.
Speaker A:So, you know, we try to.
Speaker A:We try to do.
Speaker A:We try to make more time now to.
Speaker A:To spend time with my parents because they're not really that far away.
Speaker A:They're only, like, maybe 40 minutes away.
Speaker A:But it's just.
Speaker A:We're just busy between, you know, jobs and Haley's cheerleading and, you know, running errands and this and that.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's hard to find the time to.
Speaker A:To get over there and.
Speaker A:And spend.
Speaker A:So we're trying.
Speaker A:We're trying to make.
Speaker A:Make it to where we spend that time now with them, just because.
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker A:Don't ever know, you know, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, so it's One of those things.
Speaker A:It's tough, man.
Speaker A:But, you know, like, I.
Speaker A:You know, I.
Speaker A:I cherish every phone call now.
Speaker A:Whereas sometimes before, you know, my dad would kind of call me, you know, and just for nothing.
Speaker A:And I just feel like, okay, dad, you know, because I gotta go.
Speaker A:That's, you know, now it's like, you know, I don't have that attitude anymore, like.
Speaker A:Because I know, like, one day the phone calls will stop coming, you know?
Speaker A:So, like, I try to cherish more of the time even.
Speaker A:Like, they came over here for, what was it, Memorial Day?
Speaker A:That was the last holiday we had, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, they came over Memorial Day, you know, and.
Speaker A:And everybody was in the pool and everything like that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And, you know, Michelle's like, you're gonna get in the pool.
Speaker A:You're gonna get in the pool.
Speaker A:And I was like.
Speaker A:I mean, I will, but I was like, I just.
Speaker A:I want to sit on the porch with dad, you know, for a little bit and talk, you know?
Speaker A:So, like, I try to, like, take that time of, you know, sitting on the porch and talking with him a little bit more, you know, not worried about jumping in the pool and cooling off.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, with everybody else.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's just one of those things, man.
Speaker A:You know, life.
Speaker B:Can you give me one second?
Speaker B:I gotta grab the cord.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:My headphones are beeping.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:You're gonna.
Speaker A:You're gonna die on me.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:Oh, come on.
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker B:Calypso big butts in the way.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:Still gotcha.
Speaker A:Yep, yep, I'm here.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Perfect.
Speaker A:Good deal.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, so, yeah, man, I mean, it's.
Speaker A:You know, it's one of those things.
Speaker A:It just makes you appreciate, you know, And.
Speaker B:And, yeah, you got.
Speaker B:My mom.
Speaker B:She got diagnosed June 27th with cancer in October 17th.
Speaker B:Yeah, October 17th, she passed.
Speaker B:They weren't that quick.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And that's why, man, I.
Speaker B:I felt what she said when, you know, the phone rings and you're like, yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And then you get.
Speaker B:Something like that happens, and.
Speaker B:And hers went so quick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:God, there's guilt of all the thing.
Speaker B:You know, the times.
Speaker B:Incidents like that, when you didn't know it was going to be that fast.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:It's just the.
Speaker B:The day she ended up passing because I've always had my own business and she needed care.
Speaker B:When they did the chemo and stuff, which they told her it was terminal and they wanted to do the chemo to prolong it.
Speaker B:That chemo, man, that.
Speaker B:That made the last part of what she had left.
Speaker B:Horrible.
Speaker B:If they tell me I'm terminal, I am not going to do chemo.
Speaker B:Just let it ride.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it was just amazing how quick that it progressed.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:You, you, you don't realize how much a person means in your life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Until they're gone like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And still this October will be 18 years.
Speaker B:And still I like now that being sober and having the shop and stuff, I.
Speaker B:I wish she could see it.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's my only regret of the whole drinking thing is that she didn't get to see me sober because I, you know, she might not have said it and her time, she might have enabled it.
Speaker B:Wanting to go out on the boat, showing up at the door with a case of beer, like, let's go, I'll put gas in it.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I know deep down that that because my dad was drunk, he took off.
Speaker B:I don't really remember him, but.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I wish he could have saw that.
Speaker B:So that, that's like my one regret out all the drinking.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I didn't hurt nobody and anything like that, but my mom never got to see it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah, that.
Speaker B:That's when I wish that she did.
Speaker B:You know, I, I know she, she sees it now, but it's not.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I mean, that's the thing is you want to, you want your, you, you want your parents to at least, you know, know that you succeeded or that you made it or you did it right, that, you know, they did a good job and, and everything, you know, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, And I'll tell you what, man.
Speaker A:I mean, it, it's.
Speaker A:It's kind of opened my eyes a little bit.
Speaker A:I mean, I never, I never drank, I never smoked, you know.
Speaker A:You know, but obviously the older that I've gotten, you know, I've.
Speaker A:I have put on some weight.
Speaker A:So, like, it's, it's made me like, kind of realize, like, I try not to eat stupid anymore or just eat to eat, you know, Like, I try to.
Speaker A:I'm trying to, you know, shed some of the pounds.
Speaker A:You know, Michelle and I, we try to do if it's not raining or we don't have one of the nights when we have to take Haley to cheer.
Speaker A:We have a three mile loop that we go and we walk and, you know, we're trying to make sure that we stay active and, you know, make sure that, you know, that we don't as we get older, we don't, you know, just Kind of give up or not be active enough, you know.
Speaker A:So, you know, we're trying to.
Speaker A:We're trying to, like, okay, you know, we see like, all the mistakes people made.
Speaker A:So, like, how can we try to, you know, make sure that when we get into our 70s, you know, that we're not just two bumps on.
Speaker A:On a log.
Speaker A:Like, we're still active, you know, and one of our biggest motivations is, is our neighbor that, that lives Caddy corner across the street.
Speaker A:I think he'll be 92 or 93 this year or something like that.
Speaker A:And like, dude, you.
Speaker A:You look at him and you wouldn't think he was a day over, like 80, you know, I mean, like, he's out there, mows his yard, he's tinkering on the, on the trucks.
Speaker A:Like, he's always fidgeting in his workshop.
Speaker A:Like, he's, he's active.
Speaker A:He's just.
Speaker A:He's always doing something, you know.
Speaker A:So, like, we kind of use him as, as our motivation.
Speaker A:You know, we're like, we want to be like Mr.
Speaker A:Bill when we're in our 90s, and we can still, like, get up and move around and drive and do this and do that.
Speaker A:So, yeah, we, we've kind of taken that, you know, we, we.
Speaker A:We walk, you know, as much as we can.
Speaker A:You know, I, I posted a thing the other day because I thought it was kind of funny, you know, that the, you know how the old tomagotchis, you know, you had to keep the animal alive with the Tomagotchis.
Speaker A:And it's like, yeah, the, the new smart watches of the Tachi.
Speaker A:The new Tachi, the animal you're trying to keep alive is yourself.
Speaker A:And it's true, like, I try to, yeah, wear my watch as much as I can.
Speaker A:So, like, I know, like, okay, it's time to stand up.
Speaker A:I need to move around.
Speaker A:I need to, you know, I need to do the things, you know, and I track my steps now and I track, you know, my activity and, and all this.
Speaker A:So, like, it's, it's made me like, you know, try to be a little more, you know, health conscious so that I, I'm not in that situation.
Speaker B:By.
Speaker B:One of my buddies passed a few years ago, and I, I've known his mom when I knew him, but we became close because she's.
Speaker B:She was turning 80 back then, and so help her out and stuff, and all that, but we, we become real close and she's.
Speaker B:She'll be turning 85 and it's the same thing out there.
Speaker B:Doing her leaves, cutting the lawn.
Speaker B:You know, there's leaves in the gutter.
Speaker B:She's trying to climb up a ladder to go do it.
Speaker B:And she's motivation.
Speaker B:Like, I hope when I'm even close to that age, I'm still getting around doing.
Speaker B:Even if I don't want to cut my lawn, I want to at least have the.
Speaker B:The mobility to do it, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:That's the.
Speaker B:The shop extended it a little bit, but when I got some.
Speaker B:Have you ever heard of the Great Loop?
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:You go down to Mississippi, around Florida, up the east coast, through the Great Lakes.
Speaker A:It's a big circle.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:People do it.
Speaker B:And usually when they retire and they say, if you want to enjoy it, it takes a year.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:People have done it.
Speaker B:I think the fastest was like, 33 days that there's two people doing it on pontoon boats right now.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I haven't seen any updates from them, but in the past, there were two on jet skis trying to do it.
Speaker B:But I've always wanted to do that.
Speaker B:Always wanted to do it.
Speaker B:When I.
Speaker B:I joined the power squadron way back in the day, and one of the old boaters was talking, they had just come back from us, like, what is that?
Speaker B:At that time, I didn't even know you could take the Mississippi all the way down to the Gulf.
Speaker B:So that was cool.
Speaker B:And I look more into it, and I've been talking about it ever since.
Speaker B:So I got sober, and I said, when I turn 50, I'm taking off and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker B:Because the whole point I made started making content and an online presence.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna supplement my income on the boat, and if I got a little name out there when I'm coming down to Mississippi and I'm gonna be in a b Marina.
Speaker B:Yeah, you'll know who's coming in, and I'll try and line up some work, but I don't know if that's gonna happen now because just, you know, life changes.
Speaker B:And I found I.
Speaker B:I do so much boating.
Speaker B:I couldn't find that when we were down in Florida, Alice, I.
Speaker B:I went back to the Keys, and I haven't been on land in the Keys in a very long time.
Speaker B:We used to run poker runs down there.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:My truck got really, really trashed in Miami.
Speaker B:I couldn't find a car wash.
Speaker B:A couple of the mobiles that I found online.
Speaker B:Yeah, we'll come out.
Speaker B:And they never did while we were down there.
Speaker B:So there's no market down there.
Speaker B:And I was like, there's water on both sides.
Speaker B:Yeah, just get a decent boat, a small house.
Speaker B:When the work comes, I don't need to go travel.
Speaker B:I got it all around here.
Speaker B:We'll get a camper and we'll go travel that way.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's really, that's really sounding like the plan now.
Speaker B:But, yeah, who knows?
Speaker B:I'll worry about it when it comes.
Speaker B:Because one thing I've learned in all this is you can plan as much as you want.
Speaker B:Life happens and it might not work out that way.
Speaker B:So that's what I try and just ride the wave with most things.
Speaker A:You know, I'm, I'm the same way too.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I'm.
Speaker A:I like my structured ways, you know, like, if I'm doing this, I, you know, I, I gotta kind of do it that way or whatever.
Speaker A:But at the same time, you know, Michelle will be like, well, what do you think about, you know, spring break next year?
Speaker A:Like, we do this?
Speaker A:And I'm like, I mean, sure, I guess.
Speaker A:I mean, like, that's so far ahead, you know, she's like, she's like, why don't you ever, like, planning things?
Speaker A:And I'm like, because I don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow, you know, I mean, like, exactly, you know, Like, I, you know, nothing's.
Speaker A:Nothing's prom, you know, it's like, you know, tomorrow's not promised, right?
Speaker A:You know, and, and, but at the same time, like, like you said, right, like, like life changes.
Speaker A:Like, things happen, you know, things come up, you know, I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, we could be in a situation next year where like, yeah, you know, we're, we're making more money than we ever had.
Speaker A:Sure, let's go take a vacation on spring break.
Speaker A:Or it might be like, you know, know that, you know, the shops closed down.
Speaker A:I'm, I'm looking for a job somewhere, you know, like, you know, whatever, right?
Speaker A:I don't know what, you know.
Speaker A:So I always tell her, like, I mean, sure, whatever, you know, and she's just like, ah, you never have a say in it.
Speaker A:I'm like, because I, I really don't know what's going to happen next year, you know, or, or, or in two weeks, you know, I told the, the eye doctor, you know, that when I went to the eye doctor a couple months ago.
Speaker A:And then like, okay, so we have, we'll have you come back next year.
Speaker A:Is this day good?
Speaker A:And I'm like, lady, I don't know where I'll be tomorrow.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:I guess put it down and then when we get.
Speaker A:If, if we get there, then we'll figure it out.
Speaker B:But yeah, I try not to do more than like a month, two at the most out.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because after that, man, there's just too many variables that are going to change.
Speaker B:Especially something like, is this date gonna work for you?
Speaker B:It's like, I don't know.
Speaker A:Well, and two, in our, in our business too, right?
Speaker A:You could be like, oh, yeah, like, I don't have anything scheduled next year shop.
Speaker A:But like, you know, then like two weeks before, you know, you get somebody that's, you know, wants a coding job or something like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm booking that.
Speaker A:Like, my eyes, you know, like, I got confidence.
Speaker A:Like, you know, let's do the job first.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So yeah, I mean, that's, that's the other thing I always tell people.
Speaker A:I'm like, look, like, I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, my.
Speaker A:You know, I could have nothing booked tomorrow and I get a phone call and then I'm.
Speaker A:I'm booked out the week.
Speaker A:Like, you know, I can't.
Speaker A:It's hard for me to make plans like that, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I, I.
Speaker B:A lot of people, if this ever comes up, don't seem to have that problem.
Speaker B:Except people who are in the detailing world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It seems like our lives are based like that because that's how the work is sometimes.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, a lot of detailers say that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I got somebody knocking at the door.
Speaker B:Alex, I'll be right back.
Speaker A:Yeah, go ahead, man.
Speaker B:It's a little late for customers.
Speaker A:Should we.
Speaker A:Should we put a commercial here?
Speaker A:Put a commercial here.
Speaker A:Everybody's listening.
Speaker A:We didn't go.
Speaker A:We didn't go dead.
Speaker B:All right, okay.
Speaker B:Somebody.
Speaker B:Somebody's girl that they're having on their boat.
Speaker B:Can't find the bathroom.
Speaker B:Apparently my door looks like the bathroom.
Speaker B:Listen, there's a bathroom.
Speaker A:It might be a show in here, but it's not for.
Speaker B:It's amazing how many people this shop, even on the outside.
Speaker B:The outside looks just as eccentric as me, but it does not look like a boat mechanic shop.
Speaker B:And you would be surprised how many people walk in here and that's what they're looking for.
Speaker B:You don't want me doing that work on your boat.
Speaker B:Trust me.
Speaker A:It's like, I'll clean up.
Speaker B:I'm too.
Speaker B:I'm too tall to be a mechanic on boats.
Speaker B:Yeah, you gotta be almost like jockey size.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Them engine.
Speaker B:Them engine compartments are tight.
Speaker A:Yeah, I, that's not like it was.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:Many, many, many, many years ago in, In a different life, I worked for.
Speaker A:In the detail shop for one of the boat dealerships here in Orlando.
Speaker A:And I'll tell you what, that was.
Speaker A:That was not a fun job.
Speaker A:I, I think that's where.
Speaker A:I think that's where I, I realized I didn't like detailing boats.
Speaker A:Is that place.
Speaker A:The only ones I like doing was like, the brand new ones.
Speaker A:When they come in, like, with all the, all the, the Saran Wrap, you know, coverings over them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, take those off and just kind of like gently wipe down the interiors and everything.
Speaker A:But, man, those, those used boats that would come in with the moldy seats and all that stuff, we'd have to scrub and clean down.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:That was not for me.
Speaker B:That's like, in a lot of the, the boat trainings, the, the examples that you train on aren't real world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm doing a shrink wrap training in the fall, and I think they're.
Speaker B:It might end up being.
Speaker B:Becoming bigger.
Speaker B:And if it is, I got a whole boneyard across the street.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker B:Plus a couple people that I know.
Speaker B:I, I've got real world examples.
Speaker B:Yeah, it would be one of them classes where if you want to do both, you're gonna do them, but if you're not really sure, you're not gonna want to after this class, because it's gonna be the real world example of what shows up at your door.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker A:No, I was, I was just gonna say I remember one time at one of the car washes that I ran, you know, we had somebody bring in.
Speaker A:I don't remember what it was like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, it was a decent sized boat, I want to say, maybe probably like a little, little bit less than a 30 footer, you know, but between like a 24 and a 30, I would say, because it was, it was decent size, but I mean, it was like it had just sat out underneath a tree for a year.
Speaker A:I mean, the, the thing was like, green, you know, like, the interior was nasty.
Speaker A:And yeah, it was definitely one of those ones that I said, all right, detailers, this is your job now.
Speaker A:I sold it, so go to it.
Speaker A:They hated me for it, but I mean, I got up there, I got up there and worked with them.
Speaker A:You know, I, I did.
Speaker A:I did the work with them and everything, helped them out.
Speaker A: would have been like mid like: Speaker B:Yeah, probably.
Speaker B:It's all relative.
Speaker B:My buddy, I've known him since high school, and he had his own painting company.
Speaker B:He doesn't do it anymore.
Speaker B:But we.
Speaker B:We were talking, and sometimes I have a problem telling somebody the price to do their boat because I've been doing it so long, it's sounds like crazy expensive when back in the day I was doing stuff for 400 bucks, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:I got that.
Speaker B:Them old prices in my head and like, like 400 all day long.
Speaker B:800 was nuts.
Speaker B:But nowadays, 800 ain't nothing.
Speaker B:And I still have that.
Speaker B:Oh, they're gonna trip when I tell them 800.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, I mean, that's.
Speaker A:That's the same.
Speaker A:I mean, when I was at the car wash, dude, we had like $199.99 for a full detail, full interior extraction, leather cleaning and conditioning, rotary cut and polish.
Speaker A:And, you know, and I'm just like, you know, because I remember when I.
Speaker A:When I started doing ceramic coatings, I was like, man, these people like about 200 bucks, like ceramic coating, like, you know, and.
Speaker A:And I was one of those idiots that didn't know any better, was charging like 400, 400, 500, $600 for ceramic coating.
Speaker A:And dude, thinking I was like making all the money in the world, right?
Speaker A:Everybody's like, dude, like, you got to be thousand dollars plus or whatever.
Speaker A:And I'm like, what?
Speaker A:Like that?
Speaker B:You know, that's what I thought too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But wait, do you do many exotics or any at all?
Speaker A:No, not really, man.
Speaker A:I mean, I've done a few.
Speaker A:But honestly, like, my bread and butter is kind of like that 60 to 100 price range, you know, like the, the kind of cars that we have, like the, you know, the sports or the, or the, the rss, you know, between, you know, the M cars, you know, BMW, Mercedes, Audi.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, like that, that higher end 60 to $100,000 is.
Speaker A:Is really, really like my bread and butter.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And I like those because to me, those are the.
Speaker A:Those are the people that, you know of like, okay, I've spent good money on a car.
Speaker A:I want to spend good money to keep it clean, you know, or.
Speaker A:Or keep it protected.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like, you know, the people that are, you know, buying you know, twenty thousand, thirty thousand dollar cars really don't get give enough, don't, don't give a.
Speaker A:About them.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:It's just like that's, that's a cheap car these days, you know, unfortunately.
Speaker A:And then people that are spending 150k plus like they're not driving those cars enough to like need them detailed or want them detailed or you know, that type of stuff.
Speaker A:So I like that 60 to 100k range man, like where I can just you know, take care of people and, and they're, they're willing to pay for it.
Speaker A:They know how much it's going to cost them.
Speaker A:You know, they're, they're, you know, keeping them up, you know, keeping them cleaner longer.
Speaker A:So not that bad when I do clean them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I don't know man, I mean my, my viewpoint on exotics has changed.
Speaker A:I mean obviously when I got into this I was like, I want to do all the front Ferraris and Lamborghinis and yeah, like I'm like bro, I don't, I don't care as long as you pay me.
Speaker A:Like, I don't, I don't look at the badge, I don't look at the badge, I just look at the check.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like yep.
Speaker B:You know, I've always been that way.
Speaker B:If you're a Ferrari and a four man, I treat them the same.
Speaker B:But where I was going with that is the price of the, the toys.
Speaker B:And yeah, you got in there that, that's what gets me.
Speaker B:Boats, the low end, they're, they're outrageous now but a decent middle ground boat is 3 to $500,000 nowadays.
Speaker B:Yeah, they don't take care of them.
Speaker B:That's what, that's why I was asking to view the, the exotics.
Speaker B:Like you ever seen one of those completely wrecked?
Speaker B:That's, that's how boats are when, when they're spending that kind of money, they don't take care of them.
Speaker B:And it just amazes me.
Speaker B:Yeah, it amazes me.
Speaker A:Me.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:And it's crazy too because like you know, I mean obviously there's a lot of water down here in Florida so there's a lot of people.
Speaker A:Especially now, you know, Sunday morning, Saturday mornings you see like everybody on the, like, you know, with their boats on the trailer behind the trucks, like heading out, you know, either going, going to get on the river, going out on lakes or whatever.
Speaker A:And like you see some of these friggin boats man, and you're just like God, like How, like, how do you have the money for that?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:I see them all the time.
Speaker B:I'm right on the river on a Tuesday with a 300, 000 boat.
Speaker B:It's like, why aren't you at your job?
Speaker B:Well, even the little guys on their bass boats, Those are all 60 and $80,000 now they're out there all during the week.
Speaker B:It's like, what do you guys do for work?
Speaker B:You're never working.
Speaker B:Working new truck, pulling it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, the only thing I can think of, and I don't know, I could be completely wrong, but the only thing I can think of is maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe boat payments go a lot longer than car payments do.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, so you can go 30.
Speaker B:You can go 30 years on a boat.
Speaker A:Yeah, so that's.
Speaker A:That's different, you know, with mo.
Speaker A:With cars, you know, especially with the exotic or something like that.
Speaker A: n years, you're still at like: Speaker A:Yeah, I don't, I don't know, man.
Speaker A:Like, you know, and that's my other thing.
Speaker A:Like, the older, the older I get now, like, you know, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having, you know, a badass Porsche or, you know, being an audi guy in R8 or Ferrari or something like that.
Speaker A:But like, I'm like, man, there's no way in hell I'd pay $2,500 a month or $3,000 a month for, For a car that I can't really drive.
Speaker A:Because most of those cars, you know, as soon as you put miles on, they're worth nothing, you know, like, you.
Speaker B:Know, so, yeah, some of the, Some of the dealers here at the boat shows will put like the monthly payment formulas they do and 20 down on a 1.1 million dollar boat.
Speaker B:And it's only 4, 500amonth or whatever.
Speaker B:It's like 4, 500.
Speaker B:And you know that the people that are buying them boats, they're going in Memorial and they're coming out Labor Day.
Speaker B:So nine months out of the year, you're paying for that and you're not even using it.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Boats.
Speaker A:Boats are one of those things that amaze me.
Speaker A:Like, they're.
Speaker A:They're really.
Speaker A:They're really cool.
Speaker A:Like some of the things that, you know, especially, like when you get into the, the yacht styles, you Know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The crazy that they can do on these boats or do with these boats or whatever.
Speaker A:But then it's like, you know, like, Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:I mean, you got a $200 million yacht.
Speaker A:Like, are you really on that all the time?
Speaker A:Like, you know, like when, when you.
Speaker B:Got a boat like that, though, that boat's making money because when you're not using it, it's getting chartered.
Speaker B:That's what I would do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like having a private jet, you know.
Speaker A:You chartered.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I get that, but it's still like, it's so expensive.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, when you, you know, you see, it's like, oh, Jeff Bezos, you know, 500 million dollar boat and it costs like 20 million dollars a year just to operate it or, you know, some crazy like that.
Speaker B:That's probably just for the staff.
Speaker B:They say a good rule of thumb is 10 of the purchase prices, the yearly operating loss.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:It's like buying a big house, everybody.
Speaker B:Oh, I'd love to have a.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Until the heating bill comes and the electric bill comes, you know, it's not so much fun anymore.
Speaker B:I, I, well, the boat I was gonna do the loop on, I had a 38 Chris and I figured it out.
Speaker B:Even being real easy on the throttles, that trip would have been probably 50 to 55, 000 in fuel alone.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's like, well, how is that retirement?
Speaker B:I'm not, I'm not a baller.
Speaker B:I'm literally gonna be working my ass off just to move that boat along the, on the, the loop.
Speaker B:So that didn't work out.
Speaker A:What you do is you get about 10 people, you charge them $5,000 a pop for to go on the loop with you.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like you're gonna captain the boat.
Speaker B:The whole point is to get away from people.
Speaker B:I'm bringing more than I want on land.
Speaker B:No, there's always ways to do it.
Speaker B:If it comes down to it, and I really want to do it, I got a jet boat.
Speaker B:People are doing it on jet skis.
Speaker B:I'll rig the jet boat.
Speaker B:I, I'll do it.
Speaker B:If I set myself to it.
Speaker B:It was a bucket list item.
Speaker B:But I don't know, man.
Speaker B:Coming down there and getting a nice little place on the, somewhere in the Keys and then get a camper and camper travel.
Speaker B:I don't know, it seems more, more my speed now.
Speaker B:Plus it's cheaper.
Speaker B:A lot cheaper.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:One one of even, even coming down for MTE I, I think the whole Time I was down there and we went all over Florida after it ended.
Speaker B:I'm coast to coast and up and down.
Speaker B:I, I think total fuel bill for that whole trip was like 4:30 in the truck.
Speaker B:It's like that's, that's going out for a day on the weekend in a boat.
Speaker B:In the gas, though.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Things change.
Speaker B:Get a little, little shack down in the Keys, but, you know, then, then everything's more expensive than the key.
Speaker B:So where are you really winning?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Everything's got his pluses and minuses.
Speaker B:It's just finding the, the balance that you want to deal with.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's, that's the thing is, is, you know, especially down here, anywhere near water is going to be stupid expensive.
Speaker A:Expensive.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anywhere out in the middle of nowhere is going to be cheap as you know, it's trying to find that happy medium of not being completely out in the middle of nowhere and not being right on a lake or on the river or on the ocean, you know, to, to, to, you know, be able to live, you know, afford something comfortably.
Speaker A:I'm glad, I'm glad we did what we did.
Speaker A:I mean, we, we bought our land and built our house.
Speaker A: years ago now because it was: Speaker A:It's, it's more agricultural, but there wasn't a lot around us.
Speaker A:And now everything started to go grow around us.
Speaker A:They're putting in more neighborhoods.
Speaker A:They built a, a big town park like, I don't know, 14, 15 years ago or, or whatnot.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like just a mile or two down the street that's, you know, got a movie theater and restaurants and shopping and grocery store and that type of stuff.
Speaker A:And so like, everything over the past 23 years has started growing towards us.
Speaker A:And so, you know, this little house that, you know, we paid next to nothing for is now, you know, worth five times what we paid for it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Everything's growing to us and the property value is going up so much.
Speaker A:So that's the one thing I can say, like, we kind of did, right?
Speaker A:You know, like we, we found this perfect little piece of land in the middle of the woods, built a house on it, got, you know, built the house really cheap and it just waited for everything to come to us.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's, that's good.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:How far out of like the, the actual city of Orlando are you?
Speaker B:Because you say, you said Wood Woods.
Speaker B:That was MTE was my first time in Orlando.
Speaker B:So I don't know how far you got to go to.
Speaker A:So I mean like when I say wow, woods.
Speaker A:I mean there's like woods around us, but I mean there's still a bunch of houses.
Speaker A:I mean they just built.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:A toll road expansion extension that, that goes.
Speaker A:Okay through the woods.
Speaker A:So a bunch of the woods got knocked down.
Speaker A:But so like I'm in Sanford, which is like it's considered north Orlando, whatever they call it.
Speaker A:So I mean like to actual downtown Orlando, like the main city of Orlando, depending on traffic on, on the interstate, it's.
Speaker A:It's maybe a 20, 25 minute drive.
Speaker A:Like okay for me to go to MTE, which.
Speaker A:Which was at the Gaylord this year, which is like way south Orlando.
Speaker A:Like it only took me like 40 minutes to get down there, you know, and that's basically going from the top of Orlando to the bottom of Orlando kind of.
Speaker A:So I mean, it's.
Speaker A:Where I'm at is the great greater Orlando areas.
Speaker A:What like north Greater Orlando area.
Speaker B:So you're out of the traffic.
Speaker A:I mean, kind of.
Speaker A:But you know, that was a lot of trick.
Speaker B:I don't know if it was the time of year, but there was a lot of traffic down in Orlando.
Speaker B:Seemed like every two miles you wanted to go took 20 minutes.
Speaker A:Well, and, and where the, where MTE was held this year, the Gaylord was right across the.
Speaker A:Across from Disney.
Speaker A:So you get all the dis.
Speaker B:That's why it was okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And especially on the weekend.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like everybody's going to Disney at night for the.
Speaker A:Or what is it?
Speaker A:Disney Springs.
Speaker A:They're going down to Disney Springs, you know, for the, the restaurants and the bars and the stuff like that.
Speaker A:Or you know, a lot of people with annual passes will wait and go.
Speaker A:Especially in Florida because it's so hot.
Speaker A:They'll wait and go, you know, afternoons, evening times to the parks and then, you know, the parks are open until midnight or something like that, you know, so you can go, especially if you got an annual pass, you go five or six o' clock in the evening time and hang out for, you know, four or five hours in the evening, do the parks or whatever.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So yeah, it.
Speaker A:Down there, down there in the Disney area, the traffic is crazy.
Speaker A:Pretty much no time, you know, all times of the day.
Speaker A:It's also that, that's the tourist area too, you know, so.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, you got all the tourist traffic and then, you know, and then really I.4 is the only artery to get to Tampa.
Speaker A:So, you know, you're Going through Disney to get to.
Speaker A:To go to Tampa, like, or coming from Tampa to Orlando, you got to go through that whole little area.
Speaker A:So, yeah, dude, it's.
Speaker A:I try to avoid that whole area altogether if I can.
Speaker B:That was the only forewarning I got about going to Orlando from anybody that had previously went to mtv.
Speaker B:They're like, have fun with the traffic.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they were.
Speaker B:They weren't kidding.
Speaker B:As soon as I saw a sign that said Orlando, we stopped.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Well, in, like.
Speaker A:So next year, when it goes back to the Rosen, it'll be.
Speaker A:It'll be just as bad because the Rosen is over on I Drive, and that's, like an.
Speaker A:The huge tourist area.
Speaker A:So that's, like, where all the main hotels are.
Speaker A:And an I Drive is kind of like.
Speaker A:Like, right across from Universal Studios.
Speaker A:It's got, you know, all the little souvenir shops and.
Speaker A:And restaurants and.
Speaker A:And clubs and bars and everything.
Speaker A:So when it gets down there, it's.
Speaker A:It's even.
Speaker A:Oh, and then the convention center is down there.
Speaker A:And of course, it's Orlando, so there's always a convention going on.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Everybody seems excited that it's moving back to the old location.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The Rosen, was it a better.
Speaker B:Better facility or just more to do an area?
Speaker A:So I think what most people like about it is because it is on I Drive, so there's more.
Speaker A:There's more hotels.
Speaker A:So, like, you.
Speaker A:You know, the Rosen is.
Speaker A:Is kind of like the Gaylord, you know, it's.
Speaker A:It's a kind of expensive resort, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so a lot of people will book one of the hotels down the street because it's, you know, it's walking distance or it's a quick Uber Uber ride or whatever.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then there are more restaurants that you can go to.
Speaker A:You know, like, at the Gaylord, it was just like, what was it?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The breakers, little sports bar kind of kind of thing.
Speaker A:There was, like, that fancy house, and then.
Speaker A:And then, like, the cafeteria was all they really had.
Speaker A:So at least at the Rosen, there's, like, the Rose, and actually inside has, like, three or four restaurants that are pretty nice or pretty decent, like a mixture of foods, like, like, you know, burgers and bar food.
Speaker A:There's, like, a taco place.
Speaker A:There's a nice steakhouse kind of thing or whatever.
Speaker A:But on I drive, there's, you know, a handful or more restaurants.
Speaker A:You know, a Friday is a Chili's, a McDonald's, a, you know, pizza place of this place, of that place, you know, so there's more variety closer to.
Speaker A:So that's, that's what I think everybody likes about the Rosen better than the Gaylord.
Speaker A:Was that there, there is more to do around the Rose and.
Speaker A:Than at the Gaylord.
Speaker B:So was it only at the Gaylord for the last two years?
Speaker A:So it was at the Gaylord three years.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I believe.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Or no, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, the gate.
Speaker A:Yeah, the Gaylord.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, the Gaylord was the last two years.
Speaker A:It was at the Rose in like the three years before that or four years before that.
Speaker A:But I think, I can't remember exactly when I, when I was talking with Sheldon.
Speaker A:I think there was a scheduling conflict at the Rosen.
Speaker A:So he had to book the Gaylord, but in booking the Gaylord, he had to book it like two years in a row or something like that.
Speaker A:And then he was able to get it back to the, to the Rosen.
Speaker A:So I think, I think we're at the Rosen for the next two years.
Speaker A:And then he said at that point he's gonna have to make a call to where maybe they actually move to the convention center.
Speaker A:Because MTE is growing so much.
Speaker A:It's probably going to outgrow the Rosen in, in a couple of years, which would be cool to see it go to the convention center and, and be in a bigger place and, and, you know, bigger area and bigger everything.
Speaker A:But I, I like it when it's either at the Rosen or at the Gaylord because then everybody's right there, right?
Speaker A:Like everybody hangs out afterwards.
Speaker A:It's at the hotel.
Speaker A:Like, they go to the bars, they go to the restaurants or whatever.
Speaker A:Like, that's the one thing I always say is really cool about MTE compared to sema, because, like, you go to SEMA and you're on, you know, you walk the floor all day long, you talk to everybody.
Speaker A:But then, like, you know, it's at the convention center.
Speaker A:So then when it's done, you know, everybody goes back to their different hotels and then you kind of like lose everybody, you know, Whereas, yeah, at the road, when MT's at the Rosen or MT's at the Gaylord, like, like, you.
Speaker B:Know, everybody's still there afterwards.
Speaker A:75 to 80 of the people are staying there.
Speaker A:And if they're not staying there, like, there's so much going on on there that everybody stays until, you know, nine or ten o' clock before everybody goes home or go or goes back to their hotels or whatever.
Speaker A:I just like that it's, you know, everybody in one place for the whole weekend and.
Speaker A:And it's easier to talk to people and hang out.
Speaker A:Network and everything, so.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm kind of.
Speaker A:I would.
Speaker A:I would be excited for it to grow big enough to be in the convention center for, but then it's kind of like you.
Speaker A:You might lose that.
Speaker A:That, you know, this of it, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, so we'll see, man.
Speaker A:You know, Sheldon said it'll.
Speaker A:It'll at least be two years before he has to make that decision.
Speaker A:And, like.
Speaker A:Like we talked about earlier.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, who knows what we'll all be doing.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Y.
Speaker B:I mean, that's.
Speaker B:That's just it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, part of me is kind of hoping maybe I'm not detailing anymore in two years.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, maybe I'm still with Aquatech or a business, like, in the industry, or who knows?
Speaker A:Maybe I'm out completely and doing something different and.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You never know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't care where MTE is or SEMA is or.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So be out on your boat.
Speaker B:Be out on your boat driving the sunset somewhere instead.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:It'll be interesting to see.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's fun.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, it was.
Speaker A:It was cool.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You had a good time.
Speaker A:I think it.
Speaker A:At least it seemed like.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was.
Speaker B:It was the first.
Speaker B:I didn't even.
Speaker B:I didn't even know about mte.
Speaker B:The Round Table.
Speaker B:The Round Table was getting a house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:For.
Speaker B:For it in Orlando, and that's right around the time we usually wanted to get out of Michigan.
Speaker B:So I was like, well, let's go stay with them for the weekend.
Speaker B:And then I found out more about what MTE was, and then.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker B:We're doing that and all that.
Speaker B:And then got nominated for boat detailer of the year.
Speaker B:And then the paint competition.
Speaker B:It's like all that just rolled in.
Speaker B:When.
Speaker B:Whenever the dates were announced.
Speaker B:I'm assuming that's when the Roundtable said they were getting a house.
Speaker B:Probably October.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:I was down in Orange beach, so that was September.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Could.
Speaker B:No clue about mt, but before just over a year ago, I didn't know this whole other world existed out there.
Speaker B:It's always just been our.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Sema.
Speaker B:The IDA Roundtable training events.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I had no clue.
Speaker B:None of any of that stuff went on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker A:No, I was gonna say.
Speaker A:So like, how has that changed your, like, your vision or your knowledge or whatever of.
Speaker A:Of the industry?
Speaker A:Like, you know, having, like, realizing, like, hey, there are all these other things out there.
Speaker B:The biggest thing has been the networking.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's helped out.
Speaker B:I've a lot of collaboration going on around here.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Everybody sees me and Timmy on Facebook.
Speaker B:He comes up and does a lot of boats with me.
Speaker B:But there's even just.
Speaker B:Just from that exposure and then me putting myself out, there's more local ones where we're getting a little.
Speaker B:We just had a.
Speaker B:I didn't put it on, but one of the younger guys around here, we've talked and he's coming to the shop, but he hit me up right before we went to Houston.
Speaker B:He's like, next Thursday, dinner here.
Speaker B:A couple detailers ended up being seven of us last night, so it's nice to see it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know what happened.
Speaker B:Everybody used to come to me for advice and stuff on boats until I opened the shop.
Speaker B:And it's like I became enemy number one once I opened place.
Speaker B:I don't know what happened.
Speaker A:Became.
Speaker A:You became competition.
Speaker A:I guess enemy is to become competition.
Speaker B:But if.
Speaker B:If you did a Google satellite of this area, there's literally one marina.
Speaker B:Could put all of the boat detailers in that one marina, and we still wouldn't have to compete.
Speaker B:There are that many boats around here.
Speaker B:There's no reason.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's ridiculous the amount of boats, but this is what it is.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I got over it as quick as I could.
Speaker B:It sucked.
Speaker B:I mean, there were a couple times last year, you.
Speaker B:You see three different company vans all grouped together over in this corner at the marina, and they're all looking over at me, and it's like, Jesus, what are they saying?
Speaker B:I felt attacked.
Speaker B:But, you know, a lot of people send me that whole.
Speaker B:People get like that because they're jealous of what you got.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just.
Speaker B:I just rolled with the punches then.
Speaker B:It's turning around now.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's the same with the cars, dude.
Speaker A:There are so many cars on the road, everybody could eat.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:That's the thing that I don't get is.
Speaker A:Is, you know, all these detailers are just trying to get work so they'll undercut jobs.
Speaker A:Like, they'll.
Speaker A:They'll.
Speaker A:They'll, you know, oh, that guy's doing it for that much.
Speaker A:Well, I'll do it for this much to earn your business or whatever.
Speaker A:And it's like, if everybody just charged the same price, you know, like, we'd all.
Speaker A:We'd all have the same amount of work, you know, Right.
Speaker A:I mean like when you go to buy a tv, you know, whether you go to Walmart or you go to Target or you go to Best Buy, like the TV is the same price, you know, like, yeah, I mean you might get like the, the dollar days at Walmart or something where it's a little bit cheaper, but it's not like, you know, drastically cheaper.
Speaker A:And that's, and that's the, that's the thing I don't get is, you know, you know, everybody's always like, oh, there's plenty of cars for everybody to eat.
Speaker A:But then everybody's undercharging because, because they want, they want all the work.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, dude, I, I, I've said it before and I'll say it again and I'll continue to say it.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, when I left the car wash, you know, and we were doing full service at the time, it's different now because not a lot of car washes are doing full service.
Speaker A:But you know, I mean like a slow day for us would be 350, 400 cars, you know, and I'm like, dude, just, just give me one day cars from the car wash for my whole year.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, I probably, I probably wouldn't even be able to do that many because I don't work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Every day, you know.
Speaker A:So like, you know, even if you gave me half, just give me 150, 200 of those cars for my whole year.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know, now, hey, detailer next door to me, you take tomorrow's cars, you take the Wednesday's cars, you take Thursday's car.
Speaker A:You know, I mean there's, there's so many, you know, like that's the way I look at it is like, man, just, just give me the cars that are going to the car wash.
Speaker A:Like I'd be set for the whole year off of one day's worth of, of stuff.
Speaker A:So I mean, if there's not many cars out there and the car washes are doing that and we're doing it and they're doing it and he's doing it and she's doing it like, you know, stop undercutting, just everybody charge the same price and we'll all make money and we'll all be a lot happier.
Speaker A:And yeah, I, I think there should.
Speaker B:Be like an industry agreed pricing.
Speaker A:Oh, they're absolutely.
Speaker B:That, that would be amazing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Especially like with boats, there should be like no more or no less than this per foot.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:There should be just some kind of guideline out there.
Speaker B:The same with cars.
Speaker A:Well, I think, I think the, I think the biggest thing is, I mean, we've talked about it a bunch before is, is, you know, and it's, it's been talked about a lot in the industry too, is that there's just a low bar of entry.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, there's no, there's no qualifications.
Speaker A:There's no, you know, you don't have.
Speaker B:It's, it's the long cutters of the, the working world.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I mean, you look at a lot of other, A lot of other, Other industries and you have to, you know, not only go to a training, but you have to put in certain amount of time before you can whatever, you know, plumbers, electricians, you know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Contractors, like, on and on and on, you know, and it's like.
Speaker A:But, you know, here, here we are.
Speaker A:You can go to Walmart tomorrow and buy a, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The other guys, as my buddy Greg Masterson says, the other guy's bucket of, you know, wash and tire shine and window cleaner and, and a towel and whatever, and you can, you know, start a business and say you're a dude.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I see it every year with shrink wrap and.
Speaker B:And then in the spring, they go and work for somebody for a couple months in the summer.
Speaker B:And then next, next year, you see them, they're out there out of the trunk of their car.
Speaker B:They're boat detailers now.
Speaker B:Yeah, it happens every year.
Speaker B:And then they're the ones that are, you know, two, $300.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, so, and so's doing it.
Speaker B:Well, you know, call me in two weeks when the boats faded back.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Listen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm gonna put all the boat detailers at ease here.
Speaker A:Like, you don't have to worry about me.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker B:I was hoping when you got tired of that Florida heat, you come up here, you said the weather sounds nice.
Speaker B:I got a couple boats you can work on.
Speaker B:I'll take you out on it at least afterwards.
Speaker A:Listen, it doesn't like that.
Speaker A:It doesn't.
Speaker A:The weather doesn't sound that nice.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:No sharks in the water.
Speaker A:Yeah, no sharks.
Speaker A:No alligators.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:That'S the thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I love, though, I love hearing people that say stuff like that because I honestly, I couldn't picture doing anything else.
Speaker B:I don't know how to do.
Speaker B:Do anything else.
Speaker B:So it makes me feel good that at least I'm not as nutty as I thought I was at Least it's, it's a skill other people don't want to do.
Speaker A:Listen, and I at least found something.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, listen, like I said earlier on, right, I mean, if somebody calls me, like, I, I really don't want to turn down the work if it's good money, but at the same time, like, you know, I, I said earlier it, Boats won't fit in my shop, so if I'm doing it, I have to do it outside.
Speaker A:And I, I.
Speaker A:It's got to be really good money for me to be, you know, Florida heat, you know, outside the shop.
Speaker A:I mean, not that the shop's that much cooler, but, you know, still.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, like, I just, it's just not my thing, so I don't, I don't advertise for it, so I don't get a lot.
Speaker A:Usually the only times I get calls for it is, like, for my customers that I'm doing their cars, right?
Speaker A:And they're like, hey, like, you know.
Speaker B:That'S where I get my cars from.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're like, yeah.
Speaker A:So I'm like, I mean, like, what do you.
Speaker A:What are you trying to do?
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Like, I mean, how crazy are we trying to get here?
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, the last, the last one I did was last year.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was.
Speaker A:It was probably a year ago or whatever.
Speaker A:And it, and it wasn't too bad.
Speaker A:It was a 26 foot, like, ski boat, wakeboarding boat, whatever you want to call them these days.
Speaker B:And it's a good size.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not too much.
Speaker A:No, it wasn't too bad.
Speaker A:I mean, I had a little bit of fade to it, but it wasn't, it wasn't terrible.
Speaker A:And it's one of my real good clients.
Speaker A:So he's like, look, dude.
Speaker A:He's like, we clean the inside.
Speaker A:So, like, I just need the outside buffed.
Speaker A:And he goes, you know, nothing crazy.
Speaker A:Just put a good sealant on it or whatever.
Speaker A:So it was.
Speaker A:It was a few months after I had Ken on the podcast from Stark.
Speaker A:So I reached out to Ken.
Speaker A:I was like, hey, man, like, I got this boat coming in.
Speaker A:Like, you know, is there any way, like, you know, you'd send me some samples?
Speaker A:Like, you know, like, I don't want to buy boat compound because I'm not going to use it.
Speaker A:Like, send me some samples.
Speaker A:He's like, oh, dude.
Speaker A:He's like, I'll send you more than samples.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:I'll just send you some stuff or whatever, you know, like, hit it up.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, that's cool.
Speaker A:If you, if you send it to me, like, I'll take a bunch of pictures, a bunch of videos.
Speaker A:I'll put it on the podcast, Instagram.
Speaker A:I'll tag you guys in it.
Speaker A:Like, I'll give you, you know, I'll show you some love or whatever.
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, man, absolutely.
Speaker A:So, like, it was really cool because, like, he sent me.
Speaker A:He sent me their cut.
Speaker A:I don't remember the name of it.
Speaker A:Something R, I think.
Speaker A:Level R.
Speaker A:Yeah, level R.
Speaker A:And then he sent me the polish.
Speaker A:And then he sent me their, their spray wax, which.
Speaker A:That, that was legit, no joke.
Speaker B:The hydro.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah, that stuff's no joke.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then he sent me a couple of their pads to try out.
Speaker A:And it was cool because he was like, hey, call me if you have any questions or whatever.
Speaker A:And, you know, I was like, all right, you know?
Speaker A:And he's like, make sure you use a rotary.
Speaker A:And I'm like.
Speaker A:I was like, dude, all I got said rotary, you know.
Speaker A:He's like, ah, it doesn't have enough ass end in it, you know.
Speaker A:He's like, you need to go get you at the wall.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, bro, like, I mean, like, you know, I mean, I, I feel like I, I was charging good money.
Speaker A: I, I, I charged a guy like,: Speaker A: So I was charging him: Speaker A:But I'm like, dude, I'm not going to go out and buy a $300 rotary for this one, this one thing, you know, Like, I was like, I, the, the rupes has got to work.
Speaker A:And he's like, well, just.
Speaker A:He's like, do me a favor then.
Speaker A:And I was like, what?
Speaker A:He goes, don't use any of those, you know, he goes, don't use any of the rupes wool pads.
Speaker A:He goes, go out and get you a big boy, you know, wool pad, you know, the 7 inch, 8 inches or whatever, right?
Speaker A:He's like, at least cut it with that.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:No, you know, I could do that.
Speaker A:So my, my buddy is Simonized rep down here, and, and his, his warehouse space is right in the, in the building next to mine.
Speaker A:So he comes rolling up, and I was like, hey, man, you got wool pads?
Speaker A:He's like, hell, yeah, I got wool pads.
Speaker A:He's like, what do you need one for?
Speaker A:You don't do any of that.
Speaker A:I was like, I got that boat down There, I got a rotary.
Speaker A:Give me a wool pad.
Speaker A:He's like, all right, here you go.
Speaker A:So I got a wool pad off of him and.
Speaker A:And went to it, man.
Speaker A:And yeah, I mean, it was.
Speaker A:Listen, it was one of those things, like it was fun to do once last year.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:That's why it was last year.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And again, I.
Speaker A:I would imagine it's probably like anything else.
Speaker A:The more you do it, the more you get used to it, the easier, like, you start figuring things out.
Speaker A:Like, okay, like, I can cut.
Speaker A:I can cut time here.
Speaker A:I can be a more efficient.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:I can do that, you know, and it's.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, you just have to get out there and do it.
Speaker A:I guess so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's what I've always done.
Speaker B:And when I got into it, there was nobody training you how to do it.
Speaker B:So nowadays, like at any of the trainings or even events, people.
Speaker B:I'm not, I'm not the train.
Speaker B:I don't know how to get it out.
Speaker B:My friends process.
Speaker B:It's just, it's.
Speaker B:It's muscle memory now.
Speaker B:I have a very hard time explaining how I do it.
Speaker B:Just watch and I'll try.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know how to explain it, but it's been so long since I've done just.
Speaker B:It just was self learned and it's in here.
Speaker B:I don't know how to teach it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's how I am.
Speaker A:That's why, like, I don't want to do trainings.
Speaker A:Like, a couple of people have asked me.
Speaker A:I was like, bro, like, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, like, I just do it, you know, like, right.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I tried that with Nicole.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, I can show you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know how to say, like, you know, it's this much arm pressure.
Speaker A:It's this much whatever.
Speaker A:I mean, like, you know, thank you.
Speaker A:I've been enough to.
Speaker A:To Noxy's trainings and like, the way that he explains everything, I'm like, okay, I get it.
Speaker A:But there's no way I could tell you how I do it, you know?
Speaker B:Like when I see Rashid or Rain when they do it, it's like, yeah, I get what you're telling.
Speaker B:I don't know how to do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I push this hard one one through five.
Speaker B:I'm pushing three.
Speaker A:Just go up and down and back and forth a couple times.
Speaker A:Like, whatever, you know.
Speaker B:Oh, God, you sound exactly like me.
Speaker B:Training somebody.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna just do that three times.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The scratches gone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:You did, you know, y.
Speaker A:You get us.
Speaker B:Oh, there's probably a couple people watching this right now, laughing.
Speaker B:They're like, that's exactly how he taught me, and I didn't learn.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's been My hardest thing is, Is, you know, with the.
Speaker A:With the move to.
Speaker A:To Aquatech, is, you know, trying to be.
Speaker A:Trying to, like.
Speaker A:I know how the works.
Speaker A:I know how to put a coating on.
Speaker A:I know what to look for.
Speaker A:I know, like, because I.
Speaker A:Because I experience it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:But it's like, trying to go like, okay, so here's.
Speaker A:Here's what you're gonna do.
Speaker A:Here's how you're gonna look, you know, like, that's where I'm trying to, like, figure myself out, because that is something that I have to not necessarily train people on, because we don't.
Speaker A:We don't really do, like, a training, you know, to get certified kind of thing.
Speaker A:But, like, I.
Speaker A:I do realize I have to be able to tell people, like, okay, this is.
Speaker A:This is how you need to.
Speaker A:You know, how much you need to apply on the applicator.
Speaker A:This is how you need to do it.
Speaker A:This is what you need to look for in the flash.
Speaker A:You know, this is wipe off, whatever.
Speaker A:So I'm.
Speaker A:I've tried to start getting better with that, but I feel like codings are a little bit easier to explain than.
Speaker A:Than polishing, because a.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No paint.
Speaker A:No two paints are alike, you know?
Speaker A:You know, it could be heavily swirled and scratched and tore up, or it could be really light.
Speaker A:You know, you don't need to go heavy with it.
Speaker A:You know, it's.
Speaker A:You know, it's so hard to, like, you know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And when I look at it, I know.
Speaker B:Or my fingernail will tell me.
Speaker B:I can't tell you how I do.
Speaker B:Just knew that, you know, it's.
Speaker B:I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I try and pay attention when I'm at any training or event like that to see how they do it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Because I'm having a problem with help trying to train help in here.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:It's not even about.
Speaker B:For classes and actually training people.
Speaker B:It's to train people to that.
Speaker A:Work with me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To work with.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think Nicole divorced me twice this spring trying to explain it.
Speaker B:Yeah, man.
Speaker B:So it's difficult.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I never.
Speaker B:Nobody ever told me how to do it, so I don't have, like, that Base.
Speaker B:Like, here's how you can explain it.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I'm one of them ones.
Speaker B:Like, you should.
Speaker B:I assume you should know this part, you know, I can't.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I feel like that's a lot of it is.
Speaker A:Is you just gotta try it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You gotta.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Pick a pad.
Speaker A:Pick a.
Speaker A:Pick a compound and do a test.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker A:That's the whole reason why we have test spots, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Did it work?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Does it need a more aggressive pad, A least aggressive pad?
Speaker A:Or does it need a more aggressive compound?
Speaker A:Or a least aggressive compound?
Speaker A:Like, you know, once you.
Speaker B:That's the part I can help you with.
Speaker A:With.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I could tell you, but I can't teach you.
Speaker B:I can tell you to go this way and that way, but you got to kind of figure it out.
Speaker B:So it went by.
Speaker B:I mean, all the work got done, so it happened.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:I know it wasn't very smooth.
Speaker A:At the end of the day, as long as the work got done in the cat and the checks got cash, like everything else can be, you know, a spaghetti, hopefully.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, there's no.
Speaker A:Sometimes there's no straight lines to getting it done, but as long as you got.
Speaker A:As long as you got there is all that matters.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:I'm happy with that.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I think you're an hour behind me, but it's.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:We're the same time, are we?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:9:44, quarter to 10.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that tells you how much I know about my time zones in the country.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, listen, man, I'm having an awesome time talking with you.
Speaker A:I don't want to cut this short, but I got just to get up early tomorrow and go do some work.
Speaker B:I got.
Speaker B:I got the sanding done and all that, so now it's time to pick up the wheel and start compounding.
Speaker B:So you're gonna work, too?
Speaker A:How late you gonna stay?
Speaker B:Who knows?
Speaker B:Who knows?
Speaker B:That's the joys of having my own shop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's why I got all the disco lights in here.
Speaker B:Get bored.
Speaker B:What are you seeing?
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker B:I end up in a pirate outfit, wearing a life jacket.
Speaker B:Sometimes the fumes get to you in this place.
Speaker B:Sometimes I gotta entertain myself.
Speaker B:The dog falls asleep and the entertainment's gone.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:That drunk girl knocking on the door for the bathroom might still be out there.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Friday night, man.
Speaker B:Never know what's going on outside.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Listen, dude, if.
Speaker A:If anybody wants to you know, learn more about you or, or maybe hit you up and pick your brain about marine detailing or something like that.
Speaker A:Like where, where can people get a hold of you at.
Speaker A:On socials or.
Speaker B:Yeah, social, I'm, I'm on them all.
Speaker B:Tick tock, Instagram, Facebook, I don't have website or none.
Speaker B:So Mike's Marine Care at Gmail.
Speaker B:But Facebook, that is usually how most people get a hold of me through messenger and stuff or they just text me.
Speaker A:Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker A:Listen, dude, this has been a blast, man.
Speaker A:Thanks for, thanks, thanks for volunteering to, to no problem.
Speaker A:Put yourself on the side.
Speaker B:I follow, I follow your show, so thanks.
Speaker B:Yeah, I knew it wasn't going to be 100 all work and polish and compounds, you know, I knew it'd be a good, real chat and I needed that.
Speaker A:No, I, I, you know, I, I, I realized last year that it just needed to be conversation.
Speaker A:It, yeah, it doesn't always happen.
Speaker B:It's, it's the break we need.
Speaker B:It's the break we need.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's nice filling it in with a little bit about the.
Speaker B:But you know, and that's when it's 24 7, man, it just gets too much.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And the whole, the whole purpose, the whole reason I started this podcast years ago was, was to get to know other detailers, you know, And I just for the first three and a half, four years or whatever, I just kind of went about it wrong.
Speaker A:I was asking detailers about detailing instead of just talking to detailers, you know.
Speaker A:So like, yeah, you know, I made that change, change and just made it conversation and we talk about detailing.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker A:If we don't talk about detailing, even better.
Speaker A:You know, it's, it's just the, the best way to learn about people is just to have a conversation with them.
Speaker A:And, and that's, that's, that's what I enjoy the most.
Speaker A:So, I mean it was, it was great because I, I know you and I have talked a little bit, you know, here and there, but not, not a whole lot.
Speaker A:And so this man.
Speaker A:So I, I, I, I really appreciate this.
Speaker A:It was, it was a blast to talk to you and you know, get a little, get a little deep about our parents a little bit, you know, and it's something I, I haven't talked about a lot.
Speaker A:So I mean, that was, that was interesting.
Speaker A:I, you know, didn't cry.
Speaker A:So that's a good thing because I thought I was going to start talking.
Speaker B:Like when you said that, when you said that, I was like, oh brother.
Speaker B:Because I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:There's been a lot of tears the last two, three weeks around here.
Speaker B:Hell, even before, when my sister picked us up to go to the airport for Houston, I was in tears because just.
Speaker B:It was non stop.
Speaker B:It was a mess up to that.
Speaker B:The real id.
Speaker B:I thought I might be driving there because mine didn't come in time.
Speaker B:It came.
Speaker B:It came the day before.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:It was sitting on my keyboard in the envelope.
Speaker B:Somebody called me.
Speaker B:I thought regarding Houston.
Speaker B:It wasn't.
Speaker B:Girlfriend was leaving or whatever, but I opened it while I'm packing and everything.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:I got my new id.
Speaker B:An hour and a half later, she shows up and it's gone.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:That's what I mean.
Speaker B:That's how that week was all the way down to the wire.
Speaker B:That's why I said I should not be getting on this plane.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:All right, Alex, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:No, no, it was a blast, dude.
Speaker A:It was great.
Speaker A:I look forward to, you know, seeing you in more places and talking to you more and, you know, don't.
Speaker A:Don't stay too late working on that boat, man.
Speaker A:Go home and get some rest.
Speaker B:No, no, I.
Speaker B:I got the dog.
Speaker B:See, the dog.
Speaker B:The dog was my excuse to get sober.
Speaker B:She's my excuse to go home because she ran out of food here.
Speaker B:We gotta go home and get food for her.
Speaker B:So maybe another hour.
Speaker B:I'll make it.
Speaker B:I'll make it right early.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:All right, buddy.
Speaker B:Thanks for giving me the break, though.
Speaker B:Thanks for giving me a break.
Speaker B:This is perfect timing.
Speaker A:It was a blast, dude.
Speaker A:You have a great.
Speaker B:Take care.
Speaker B:You too.
Speaker B:Enjoy your weekend.
