Exploring Innovations in Automotive Care and Detailing
This podcast episode delves into the intricate nuances of the automotive detailing and repair industry, with a particular focus on the significance of thorough training and the evolution of product usage. We explore the experiences and insights of seasoned professionals, highlighting the challenges faced when transitioning from traditional methods to modern practices. The discussion underscores the importance of mentorship and community engagement, as industry veterans share their journeys and the invaluable lessons gleaned from years of dedicated service. Additionally, we examine the upcoming Shine Time Expo, which promises to serve as a platform for education, networking, and showcasing innovative products. Ultimately, our conversation reinforces the notion that knowledge-sharing and collaboration are paramount in fostering growth and excellence within the detailing community.
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That's why I threw the towel, cuz I thought, man, this stuff's not coming off like I like it normally does out in my garden.
Speaker A:I got a little sunburn today, but.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Where.
Speaker B:Where are you at?
Speaker B:Up again at?
Speaker A:In between Toledo and Dayton in a little town called Lima.
Speaker B:Okay, so you're up in Ohio area.
Speaker B:Hey, you guys are getting some pretty, pretty good heat up there.
Speaker B:From what it looked like they, they were saying on the news, it was 95 here today and it was apparently the same in Chicago.
Speaker B:95.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm gonna turn you up a little bit.
Speaker B:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker A:Hang on for a second.
Speaker A:Yeah, these are new.
Speaker B:Okay, let's see.
Speaker A:It's amazing.
Speaker A:We got it right, right off the bat.
Speaker A:Let's see.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like, I like doing the, you know, the audio, you know, the video in editing it.
Speaker A:I think that's the way to do it.
Speaker A:I mean, I've done live ones before.
Speaker A:Oh, here it is.
Speaker A:Hang on.
Speaker A:Is that better?
Speaker A:Hang on.
Speaker B:I mean, I can still hear you.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can actually hear you better without the mic.
Speaker A:I mean, can you.
Speaker A:Can you hear me okay?
Speaker B:I can.
Speaker A:Hang on.
Speaker B:No, yeah, I can hear you.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's no like weird glitching or anything.
Speaker B:So if that's, if it's easier for you.
Speaker A:I didn't know if I could, if I could let my.
Speaker A:I have an autistic daughter and I don't know if I could.
Speaker A:Would be able to do a different background.
Speaker A:Let me see here.
Speaker A:Or does it matter?
Speaker B:It doesn't matter.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, like I said, I mean it.
Speaker B:I do put it on YouTube, but.
Speaker A:You'Re gonna edit it so if she walks in front of us, you can take it out, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I mean, realistically, I mean, I, you know, I might get 15 views on YouTube.
Speaker B:Like everything else is more audio based, so, you know, it's not a big deal.
Speaker A:Yeah, you sound great.
Speaker A:You actually sound better than without it.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, well, that's good without that and with.
Speaker A:With it, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I wonder if.
Speaker B:I wonder if maybe if you didn't have the settings to the headphones.
Speaker B:You know, maybe it was.
Speaker A:Maybe it was just in yourself I can hear, but it just seems like it's picking it up better.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Right now we got a good night going.
Speaker A:But, you know, so.
Speaker A:So what, what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker A:I don't know if people know me or if you want.
Speaker A:I mean, I know people know me, but I don't know if your people.
Speaker B:Know me well, I mean, you.
Speaker B:We did have you on briefly.
Speaker B:I think you were on cd, cdc, sdc, you know.
Speaker A:You know, you know, there was such a nightmare.
Speaker A:I don't think it was edible.
Speaker A:I mean, because I remember you coming back to me.
Speaker A:We did a live, but it did not go well because of in road FS and everybody else was having trouble too.
Speaker A:It was just a nightmare in that building with everything.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But I don't, I don't think we've been.
Speaker A:I knew Kurt's been on, but I don't know if I've been on, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I think other than that one time at STC was probably about it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, we can listen.
Speaker B:I mean, if you want to introduce yourself, I mean, go right ahead.
Speaker B:I mean, get.
Speaker B:We can get a little bit.
Speaker A:There's so many things.
Speaker A:There's so many things that we.
Speaker A:You know, the main thing is that, you know, I've.
Speaker A:I've been in the industries for.
Speaker A: Since: Speaker A:I worked at Z Bar and it's been a long time.
Speaker A:I came up in the auto body in collision.
Speaker A:I went to school in 78 and 79 at the vocational school in our local town, which I am now still a member of the advisory committee.
Speaker A:One of the very few guys that stayed with the automotive program.
Speaker A:Real proud of that and being able to give back to the community in the automotive field in auto body.
Speaker A:I think that's where I have confidence with, you know, painting cars.
Speaker A:You know, if you paint them, you, you get the paint.
Speaker A:You know, there's.
Speaker A:It's almost like a deeper knowledge with painting cars because you're, you're painting them, you know, the medium of what you're working on.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, when you're spraying it.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:Or maybe it just gives you the confidence that you can, you know, feel comfortable.
Speaker A:Detailing is easy after you paint and do body work and you know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:But yeah, I, I just, I think that's an advantage that I have.
Speaker A:I know there's a few people that do that also.
Speaker A:I got out of it because of all the toxins, you know, with the emrons and the isocyanates that were in the paints.
Speaker A:It just got, you know, we didn't have the down drown downdraft booths like they have now.
Speaker A:And when we were spraying an Emron, I kind of had a mass that leaked and it got into my lungs and couldn't breathe the next morning.
Speaker A:So I decided to think, you know, what Maybe I should, you know, move into a different phase of automobile, automobile industry and started working at Z Bar.
Speaker A:And then I realized, you know, I like this.
Speaker A:I've been doing window tinting and there's other, other phases besides painting.
Speaker A:So I went to put, putting sunroofs on, window tinting, chip guard and all the rust proofing and.
Speaker A:Which just gave me a lot of knowledge.
Speaker A:I already had quite a bit.
Speaker A:And then I got into management.
Speaker A:I just worked my way from the bottom spray and undercoating all the way to management.
Speaker A:And I think that's the greatest way to go because you, you walk in everybody's shoes as you're a leader and a manager.
Speaker A:You know what, that job's alike, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I mean that's just, that's the same.
Speaker B:You know, when I, when I got into the car wash industry, I mean, I started as the grunt on the front line, you know, scrubbing bugs or.
Speaker B:Actually, no, sorry.
Speaker B:I started as, as a vacuumer, you know, vacuuming cars and, and then worked my way to the front line and into the detail shop and then, and then into management and everything.
Speaker B:So yeah, you're right.
Speaker B:Like once you've kind of, you know, done all those positions and you know, what's involved or what you're asking of your people because you've been there, it's a little bit easier to kind of get that respect too because, you know, especially if you're willing to jump in with them, you know, like, hey, I'm, I'm, I'm side by side with you, you know, doing these things or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's, you know, then I, I worked.
Speaker A:I, you know, I had some stints with, you know, the Z Bart and that was a great career one trips to the Cayman Islands and sales and got me to realize what sales are about in management.
Speaker A:That really was the building blocks for what I've done, you know, and when I go and teach, you know, I teach with like a confidence of how to run a store, you know, how to take care of customers and market and a lot of people don't, don't even know that side of me.
Speaker A:And you know, I've been with Carbrite for, you know, years.
Speaker A: I started using carburete in: Speaker A:79.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So our distributor came in and he was really good.
Speaker A:He was very knowledgeable.
Speaker A:You do demos and stuff and we started using them and our, our shop was doing phenomenal.
Speaker A:We had great reviews and I told them that we were using some Z.
Speaker A:Some Z Bart stuff.
Speaker A:And also some carbide stuff.
Speaker A:And they're like, wow, just keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker A:You got great reviews there.
Speaker A:So got a confidence with carb, right?
Speaker A:And I ended up working my way back, you know, to carbride.
Speaker A:And now I'm the, you know, the senior trainer forum.
Speaker A:I'm, you know, like the guru when it comes to all things technical on.
Speaker A:On the air care side with the Ozium.
Speaker A:And also had some.
Speaker A:Had some time with Simon eyes with the detail and the car wash side.
Speaker A:Touchless and tunnel car wars.
Speaker A:So it's a whole nother game, but I.
Speaker A:I can do both.
Speaker A:And that's what kind of makes me a little unique is the paint background and then the detail and also the car wash side.
Speaker A:And it kind of.
Speaker A:Kind of like a Swiss army knife.
Speaker A:So, you know, we put the scratches in them at the car works and then we take them out on the detail side.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But definitely, I love what gets me out of bed now is Alex is.
Speaker A: , you know, a young kid drove: Speaker A:Well, he wanted to be skills valid, though, but he.
Speaker A:He was just totally fresh.
Speaker A:So, you know, we got a lemon, but we ended up turning.
Speaker A:Turning it into a lemonade.
Speaker A:We all wrapped our skills around him, and we are now working with him to.
Speaker A:He wants to have his own business.
Speaker A:And that's the beautiful thing about, you know, getting up out of bed in the morning is I've done just about everything on the professional side, but, you know, changing people's lives, helping people.
Speaker A:Helping people is way more important than the money and, you know, fame and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I really get a kick out of that.
Speaker B:Well, that's awesome.
Speaker B:I'm different for everybody who's listening, stop calling me unless you got some money for me.
Speaker B:No kidding.
Speaker B:No, but it's.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:It's nice when you.
Speaker B:When you get those phone calls, you know, and somebody wants to pick your brain or just, you know, kind of run things past you and see what your thoughts are.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's one of those things that.
Speaker B:That's a little validating, you know, Like, I always kind of feel like I'm just, you know, another guy trying every day to get better myself.
Speaker B:And so, you know, when somebody calls me and asks me a question and.
Speaker B:And not necessarily validating in the fact that, like, people are calling me.
Speaker B:But when I realize, like, oh, I know the answer.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I know what to tell them, you know, it's validating.
Speaker B:Like, okay, I, I am learning something, you know, with all these, you know, people that I talk to and I'm, and I'm asking them questions and I'm getting those nuggets of information.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, it is, it is one of those things that's, that's makes you feel warm and fuzzy, you know, at the.
Speaker A:End of the day, you know, our industry is kind of funny.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm kind of like getting to be the grumpy old man and I, you know, I tolerate a lot of stuff and I also call on a lot of stuff too, you know, so I let people know.
Speaker A:It's, you know, people try to throw, maybe throw gray on Carbide or throw gray on our company.
Speaker A:And, you know, I work for a company that's has over $5 billion worth of holdings of money and they, they just do so much, and people don't even realize how big the company I work for is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, in the industry, everybody thinks there's, you know, God's gift to detail and, you know, when it's all said and done, we're all a bunch of glorified car janitors.
Speaker A:If you think about it, how, how big and how, how big and powerful can you get?
Speaker A:For God's sake, you know, focus that time with your family.
Speaker A:And I know you do that and, and so do I, and people and helping people.
Speaker A:I've been blessed to mentor so many people and that are.
Speaker A:That almost like they're my children.
Speaker A:Almost, almost like my sons and, you know, just, just.
Speaker A:It's really neat to be in that situation with where I'm at right now, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you're right.
Speaker B:I mean, it's, you know, everybody.
Speaker B:I know everybody has their preferentials of what they like to use and everything like that.
Speaker B:I mean, growing up, you know, kind of in my, in, you know, in my knowledge or whatever through the car wash, you know, we used a ton of car bright products.
Speaker B:I mean, there's a lot of good stuff.
Speaker B:You know, at the end of the day, I feel like sometimes you have to stop worrying about what's on the outside of the bottle and what's on the inside of the bottle.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And if what's on the inside of the bottle works, who cares what it says on the outside of the bottle?
Speaker B:You know, it's re.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:You know, I.
Speaker A:People get so brainwashed into a, a brand that the.
Speaker A:I've had the pleasure to work with many brands.
Speaker A:PNS and Simon Eyes Auto Magic and in, in knowing what they've got.
Speaker A:You know, I always tell people, you know, if their lights are still on, you know, they got some good products and they're doing something right and they're growing.
Speaker A:I never get into, you know, that product's no good.
Speaker A:And I've had people come to me and say, you know, you, you don't slam the products that I'm using now.
Speaker A:And I go, no, I will never do that because it might be the only distributor that you have in your market.
Speaker A:It might be your product that you picked out.
Speaker A:And I don't want to insult your intelligence or insult your brands that you're using that that guy is taking the time to come and service you.
Speaker A:And a lot of people don't see that.
Speaker A:They think, well they're, you know, buy this product, buy that product online.
Speaker A:And you know we, a lot of our business is, is, I mean truckloads of product that, that's already sold and it's been sold for years.
Speaker A:The guy orders it.
Speaker A:There is no really demoing or anything.
Speaker A:Those guys are well oiled machines and they flip those truckloads and turn and make money and they're not even on the Internet, they're not even in the social media, you know, game and very successful people, Alex.
Speaker A:Very successful.
Speaker B:So yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker B:I forget his name and I don't even know if he works for you guys anymore.
Speaker B:He was a sales rep down here for I mean ever.
Speaker B:I mean when I started in the car wash industry in 95, I think he was running a truck.
Speaker B:And last time I had talked to him was probably maybe seven or eight years ago after I started my business.
Speaker B:And I reached out to him because somebody was asking me about a wheel acid and I remember Carbright had a really good wheel acid for like chrome wheels and things like that that we used to use at the, the car wash.
Speaker B:Man, I forget his name right now.
Speaker B:I want to say it's Dave.
Speaker A:What area, what area was that?
Speaker B:Central Florida.
Speaker B:So it had been like the Orlando north, north, north Central Florida area.
Speaker A:Should have been.
Speaker A:Say it could have been Sam too.
Speaker A:Sam Green was down there, isn't him?
Speaker B:I want to say it was, I want to say his name was Dave.
Speaker B:I can't remember his last name though.
Speaker A:Was it Dave Stanton maybe?
Speaker B:Could have been.
Speaker B:I just, I know he was.
Speaker B:He, you know, carburete forever and, and when I think.
Speaker B:Do you guys sell the Valvoline at one point?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, we, we've, we've had a relationship with Valvoline for quite a few years in Eagle One, Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, A lot of people know us, you know, through oil suppliers.
Speaker A:And I just got done spending some time with our number one Vesco L out of Detroit.
Speaker A:It's a huge, huge account.
Speaker A:We did some training up there, but yeah, and like I say, Carbide's connected to some really big hitters out there that people don't realize.
Speaker B:Yeah, because I remember, I remember he went from the, you know, the traditional car bright truck to the Eagle One truck, you know, with the Carbide sticker was a little bit smaller.
Speaker B:Eagle, Eagle One sticker was, you know, pretty big on the truck.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's, there's a lot of good guys out there.
Speaker A:That's a tough game.
Speaker A:I played it for quite a few years and it beats you up on the truck.
Speaker A:It's a tough gig.
Speaker A:It's a really tough gig to be on that truck for a long period.
Speaker A:Those guys have, are having some problems now with, you know, legs and hips and knees and stuff.
Speaker A:So I'm kind of glad I moved on from that.
Speaker A:It was great.
Speaker A:Why I did it.
Speaker A:But, you know, training is a lot more gentle on the bones and the body, and I can usually give more help, you know, where I'm at now because of my knowledge and stuff.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, and that's good because I, I think you're right, you know, you know, I mean, products are products are products, you know, but if you don't know how to use them, then it doesn't matter how good they are.
Speaker B:You know, the train, the training is, you know, and I've learned that kind of over the past couple of years with attending a couple of trainings and, and the more that I talk to people that are doing, you know, trainings and, and what all is involved with it and everything is, it's seeing that difference of somebody who goes to a training and learns something that, you know, a skill that they didn't know, you know, and, and how it's changed their, their, their income in their business, you know, just by learning this one little thing, now they can go back to their shop and, you know, now they can do this one little thing and they're charging, you know, an extra hundred dollars on every service for this one little thing or whatever, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, you know, you know, like you said, a lot of the products will do similar, similar results.
Speaker A:There's Just sometimes some are ready to use type of a formulas, Alex.
Speaker A:Some are one to one.
Speaker A:We were up at DSI with Chris Metcalfe from Flex, and people were amazed of, you know, how much we could step on those products.
Speaker A:And they were still strong and powerful.
Speaker A:Yeah, up to 15 to 1.
Speaker A:And they, that's kind of where carburetor is.
Speaker A:We, we sell a lot of the juices and auctions and big account, national accounts and, you know, these are formulas where you can, you can really step on them and, and they're still got.
Speaker A:Even our leather cleaner.
Speaker A:I've used it 20 to 1 and I still think it's too strong, so I water it down more.
Speaker A:But I, it's.
Speaker A:But that's a good place to be, though.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Have those strong formulas and that's probably why we're so successful at what we do too.
Speaker A:But there's, there's just so much in, you know, my days, you had four or five guys, Hardex and, you know, Car Bright Pro, Automagic, and that was about it in my market, you know.
Speaker A:But now I bet you you could count 20, 30 different suppliers, you know, and.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, it's, they're, it's just saturated now.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, and, and all those four that you mentioned, I think are the same four that we would have come through the car wash, you know, you know, every week for, you know, because we would get something from Carboy, we'd get something from Automagic, we get something from Pro, we got something from, you know, Automat, you know, whoever, whatever.
Speaker B:And, and yeah, you're right.
Speaker B:I mean, now there's, there's all these, these different ones.
Speaker B:I mean, my, my buddy runs a, a truck for, for Simon Eyes here, you know, and Simon Eyes didn't really do that, you know, years ago.
Speaker B:I mean, they had the car washes and everything that they, that they, that they did and whatever, but they didn't really have the trucks or whatever going out, you know.
Speaker B:And he does a lot of dealerships and, and car washes mainly, you know, more than, more than detail shops or whatever, but he does have a few detail accounts.
Speaker B:And then there's another smaller, like company right around the corner from me that, you know, they make up their own chemicals and, and sell and then, yeah.
Speaker A:We call them like either small suppliers or bathtubbers.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Some of them got really good stuff too.
Speaker A:So, you know, you can be, you can be a professional and have a product that's not, you know.
Speaker B:The other one we have down here is Car Chem.
Speaker B:I don't know if they're like a big national.
Speaker B:We have a car cam down here and, and again, they make great products.
Speaker B: at, you know, I've used since: Speaker B:So, you know, granted it takes me a lot longer these days to go through a gallon, but, you know, every six months or so, I, you know, go, go drive the, the two miles over to car cam and go see old Wally.
Speaker B:And I've known Wally for good Lord, 30 years now or whatever.
Speaker B:You know, I go see Wally and while you're still doing this.
Speaker B:Yeah, still doing it.
Speaker A:You know, that's, that's funny because a lot of the, the big wigs are now.
Speaker A:The ones that I trained at Simon Eyes are now running the Simon Eyes businesses.
Speaker A:And uh, we were actually set up right across from him at the ICA show in Las Vegas and got a chance to get over there and talk to some of my old guys and got great respect.
Speaker A:I tried not to blow bridges up or beat up people, you know, had the privilege to be work, you know, with them and Bob Phillips at PNS and you know what, what a great guy in that company.
Speaker A:And, you know, I never really had had any problem with anybody like that's out there doing what we do.
Speaker A:And I, I'm a very secure person and there's a lot of people that are not that secure in our, in the industry and.
Speaker A:But yeah, there's some good players out there.
Speaker B:There is.
Speaker B:And I think, you know, the, I think the drama is made, you know, and that's, that's kind of part of the problem is, you know, people can't just, you know, go about their day and do their thing and whatever.
Speaker B:You know, it's always like, oh, there's plenty of cars for everybody.
Speaker B:And then turns around and they're bitching like, you know, this person stole my.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Or they contacted her.
Speaker B:You know, it's.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of comical because, you know, I've been doing this for so long in training and probably I forgot a lot of stuff that, you know, that people don't, you know, just, it's just.
Speaker A:And you see a young guy that's been, you know, you can tell he's been to a training seminar and you're.
Speaker A:I'm gonna tell you, Bob, they got it going on here.
Speaker A:You got, you get your car coated and you bring it back once a year plus or minus the anniversary and you, they go over it all again.
Speaker A:And this is something that we, we created.
Speaker A: bust your bubble, but back in: Speaker A:At the time they weren't advanced with the ceramic SiO2s, but at that time it was the best that was out there.
Speaker A:But that, that maintenance program was exactly what he was talking about.
Speaker A:And I kind of let him down easy.
Speaker A:And I said, you know, it's okay.
Speaker A:You know, I know you just came out of a rah rah meeting with a guy and your, your wheels are on fire and you want to go out there, but I said, I just want to let you know that you know the truth.
Speaker A:That you know, some of this, some of this stuff's been around for a while but, but I like working with the young guys and you know, just you know, helping them out.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, and, and kind of like transitioning from that.
Speaker B:I mean you guys are, you know, I had, I had Kirk on a couple of months ago and we talked about the Shine Time Expo that you guys are doing and that's gonna, that's coming up here real soon and you know, that's going to give you guys another opportunity to kind of, you know, talk to new people and you know, kind of do some education and some training and stuff like that too.
Speaker A:Well, you know, I, I don't get in with the clicks.
Speaker A:I, I just get in with the people and that's a good light hearted group of guys.
Speaker A:With Kurt Evans working, working with some guys that need, needed some help and you know, was praying for him and doing things.
Speaker A:I really, really impressed with the character integrity of, of detailers of the round table right here.
Speaker A:Here we are.
Speaker A:And I'm like a senior advisor for them.
Speaker A:So I, I look at, I don't know, everything, never will, but they want me to kind of watch the meetings and if I see something, you know, Bob's going to speak up and say, hey, I think we might want to reconsider this but let's talk to the group and let's make a group decision.
Speaker A:But you know, and I do things with the ida.
Speaker A:I do, I try to do one of the bigger global events with the ida.
Speaker A:I just have to pick and choose my time slots.
Speaker A:Alex, because doing everything with carb, right, AP Formulators and Valvoline in the air care side ozium.
Speaker A:My hands are full so I can't dive fully into the ida or even the detailers around it.
Speaker A:I, I take care of my full time job first and my family.
Speaker A:So I think people get lost and go, go chasing things and they need to go do their day job that pays them first and then you know, of course and always keep your family, you know, right there, first and foremost.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But, but this group, this show you're talking about, I do a, a car show that's been around for about 46 years.
Speaker A:It's called the Rebel Run cars show.
Speaker A:Last year I got really involved in going to the cruises and the car shows and, and I was bringing carburete products in there and some of the aerosol dressings like the quick coat.
Speaker A:You know, it's funny, you give them away as door prizes and the next time you go there, they come running up to you because they're not used to using professional stuff.
Speaker A:Alex, you know, they're used to using, you know, do it yourself stuff.
Speaker A:And like that stuff is great.
Speaker A:I go, I know I wouldn't have brought it if it wasn't great.
Speaker A:But just having a confidence.
Speaker A:But what we're gonna have, what I'm seeing that's happening with this show is that we're invited the Texas 2K Car Club to this.
Speaker A:And it's going to be kind of a hybrid, like almost a car show.
Speaker A:Exotic, lots of different vehicles.
Speaker A:And then it's being done at the air.
Speaker A:The Museum of Flight in Houston.
Speaker A:And I actually was there about a year ago and I got my aviation certification there.
Speaker A:It's a beautiful museum.
Speaker A:It's a great venue.
Speaker A:They have an Italian coffee shop in there.
Speaker A:And I seen some things.
Speaker A:I've seen a B2 bomber come in.
Speaker A:And if you've never heard one of those come in, man, just you know, seeing those car, those, those planes come in and they're always constantly moving and stuff.
Speaker A:So just.
Speaker A:It, it alone is amazing to be there.
Speaker A:But we're bringing in exotics.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm actually headed up the Friday night.
Speaker A:We're car golfing with Carbright.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker A:I did a little bit of golfing in my life and I.
Speaker A:We go in there and we bring families and we'll do topgolf and somebody needs a little instruction.
Speaker A:So I kind of help them out and get them to try to hit the ball the right way and, and it's fun.
Speaker A:We have a good time.
Speaker A:I got Kurt swinging a little better now.
Speaker A:He's still Got some room for improvement.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But you know.
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Speaker A:We're going to sponsor that great event on Friday and then Saturday we have an education series.
Speaker A:I kind of put it together.
Speaker A:We're going to do a Business 101 class at, at 9 o' clock with rod and Jody.
Speaker A:Myself from the years I've been in business.
Speaker A:A couple other people for these guys that want, you know, want to talk business.
Speaker A:And then we've got companies like Rupez Flex.
Speaker A:It's a powerhouse group of guys vendors there, Stinger, Carbrite, I think just to name a few.
Speaker A:We got McLaren, we've got, we got a brand new McLaren car cares coming in with, with Carlos and, and what I'm seeing is I've been, I've been here before.
Speaker A:The walk in traffic will be, will be probably a lot of the car show guys.
Speaker A:And when you know, you know, you know when you're buying stuff at the, you know, the auto parts stores and then you have an opportunity to see you know, professional stuff.
Speaker A:Polishers like Rupus and Flexes and professional products like Carburete.
Speaker A:You know these guys are gonna, they're just gonna eat it up.
Speaker A:So we will be doing demos on our booth with Flex.
Speaker A:Well to have a hood or a deck lid there.
Speaker A:I'm also bringing down my new detail meter that I got after the show.
Speaker A:So we're playing with that a little bit and we'll get back on that a little later, talk about that.
Speaker A:But we're gonna do maybe a Miami Vice night.
Speaker A:Go down to Kima Boardwalk.
Speaker A:There's NASA Space center there.
Speaker A:I, I lived there for eight years.
Speaker A:So I'm going back for a couple days and see my old neighbors a couple days before and we're going to be driving in.
Speaker A:So really excited about that trip and I think it's going to be better, better than most people think it's going to be.
Speaker A:And we got a couple booth space available if somebody wants to get in.
Speaker A:We've got Grit Guard.
Speaker A:Let me see.
Speaker A:I got, I have some, I got some names here.
Speaker A:The IDA is going to be there, so Detail, Bookie, Rod and Jody.
Speaker A:The Rag company.
Speaker A:You ever hear the Rag Company before?
Speaker B:So I think I've heard of them.
Speaker B:They had that, that one guy that gave the great hugs.
Speaker B:I think his name was Levi.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I think, I think Josh is going to be there, not Levi, but yeah, Chris Evans foundation, which I am near and dear to.
Speaker A:That's actually starting to come.
Speaker A:It's a lot of government stuff, a lot of red tape we have.
Speaker A:We haven't given up on Chris's dreams, you know, so Chris is still in our, our sights.
Speaker A:Let's see what else.
Speaker A:Stinger.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's quite a, quite a lineup of suppliers there.
Speaker A:It's not going to be the big mega show like or anything, but it's, it's going to be better and I.
Speaker B:Think somewhere, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, we've got a, a distributor there too.
Speaker A:Well, I'll work with him also with some, with some training while we're doing the demos.
Speaker A:I'll actually be training him.
Speaker A:So it's going to work out really well for us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think when I talked to Kirk last, not last time on the podcast, but the last time I talked to Kirk on the phone, I think he said they had about 30 vendors.
Speaker B:They were, shoot, they were going to cap it, I think like around like 40 or something.
Speaker B:I think he said they had about 30 that were between confirmed and kind of promised, you know, so he was like, you know, if we, that's all we get.
Speaker B:That's a good start to the, to, to the show and see how it goes.
Speaker B:If we can get to that 40, that's even better.
Speaker B:But he said he wants to kind of grow it small.
Speaker B:You know, he doesn't want to have.
Speaker B:He doesn't want it to be as big as MTE or as big as SEMA or anything like that.
Speaker B:Start out small, manageable, let everybody kind of get comfortable with it and grow it and, and I think, I think it's a, I think it's a neat idea.
Speaker B:I mean it could definitely fill the void of sdc, you know, kind of that middle of the year almost, because it's what, like the, the beginning of next month, right?
Speaker B:June.
Speaker B:June, yeah.
Speaker A:It's going to be the June.
Speaker A:We set up on the 6th.
Speaker A:The, the, the, the mega part of the show is the seventh, seventh and then the eighth.
Speaker A:And just the education goes from nine to five.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that it's, it's going to be packed full of education demos, suppliers there.
Speaker A:And the neat thing about that, too, Alex, is that the car show is going to be in the other hangar, which is climate, kind of climate control.
Speaker A:And if anybody's concerned with the heat of Houston, don't be concerned because it's going to be like an inside car show and inside events.
Speaker A:So definitely don't let that scare you.
Speaker A:Another thing is it's really neat to get there.
Speaker A:You can fly into Hobby Airport and it's a hop, skip and a jump to the flight museum.
Speaker A:And it's right down the road from NASA.
Speaker A:So we're bringing family in.
Speaker A:We're gonna, we might go to Gap.
Speaker A:There's Galveston Bay.
Speaker A:You can go to Galveston's historical Galveston Island.
Speaker A:That alone would be worth it.
Speaker A:NASA, of course, we live there, so we, we've been, we've been there a couple times.
Speaker A:But Kima Boardwalk is beautiful, where the, the boats are going out into the, into the Gulf and there's big dock that goes around it.
Speaker A:There's a roller coaster.
Speaker A:There's all kinds of restaurants, shopping.
Speaker A:So a lot of families are bringing their, their families.
Speaker A:They're bringing their.
Speaker A:Everybody.
Speaker A:So it's kind of, kind of, kind of a vacation week.
Speaker A:You know, it's that, that first of June.
Speaker A:Everybody's bringing vacation, they're bringing their people.
Speaker B:Kids are, Kids are just about fresh out of school at that point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So summer started.
Speaker B:No, I think that's, I think it's neat.
Speaker B:I'm, I'm, I'm excited for it.
Speaker B:You know, we, we talked about trying to see if we could do something with it with Aquatech.
Speaker B:You know, even if we couldn't do a booth, we, we thought about maybe going and, and walking the floor just, you know, to show up.
Speaker B:But we had already made commitments for like two weeks later to go out to the refinery in Dallas and show them some support because they distribute for us.
Speaker B:And we already kind of set up a weekend with them with doing some demos and, and a car show.
Speaker B:So it was kind of one of those, like, you know, like, we can only do one, so we got to stay with what we're committed on, but.
Speaker B:But I'm excited to watch it and see how it is so that we can then hopefully, like, put it on our planner for next year, you know.
Speaker A:And, yeah, I think everybody's afraid.
Speaker A:You know, we know we all went through the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:With Daryl and the.
Speaker A:The show, and definitely we.
Speaker A:We even supported it after Daryl was gone to.
Speaker A:Just out of respect for Darl, you know, and respect for the show.
Speaker A:You know, the neat thing about this show, Alex, is you're gonna.
Speaker A:You're gonna be able to sell product at this show.
Speaker A:It's going to be, you know, not so big to where you got millions of people walking through.
Speaker A:Be a lot more personal with the family night, with the golf night going down to Galveston or the Kima or NASA if whatever they want to do.
Speaker A:And like I say, great, great bunches of suppliers that I, that I get along with.
Speaker A:All these guys really well.
Speaker A:I mean, they're all amazing.
Speaker A:And we got some coding companies coming in.
Speaker A:Opticoat was one of them on the list that's coming in for training.
Speaker A:We're gonna.
Speaker A:I'm gonna do my history of paints and I'm gonna focus on, like, exotics, the do's and the don'ts.
Speaker A:What you can screw up if you don't do something right.
Speaker A:With a rotor or caliper on some of these.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Different vehicles.
Speaker A:So I don't want to get.
Speaker A:I want to give you too much information, but, yeah, just kind of focusing on some of the exotics.
Speaker A:And then the car show is going to be a little bit of everything.
Speaker A:You know, there's Lamborghinis, Ferraris.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This ain't no joke.
Speaker A:This is gonna be a.
Speaker A:If these guys show up, like, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm predicting it's going to be a really nice car show in itself, you know, so.
Speaker A:And if you, if you haven't been there, the museum itself is worth it.
Speaker A:It's 25 to go through the show.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That you get the show and you get the museum, which.
Speaker A:It costs 25 to go to the museum.
Speaker A:If you add $25 at $50, you get the educations, all the education classes and the show, which I think is an amazing price.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, that's not bad at all.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And what was I gonna say?
Speaker B:Oh, and with the museum, Josh.
Speaker B:Josh Hernandez is going to be there, right, with the ADA is.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Josh.
Speaker A:Josh will be doing an aviation class, which is kind of unique if you think about it.
Speaker A:Not a lot of people dive into that because of the liabilities in the Insurance issues that you have.
Speaker A:And Josh.
Speaker A:I mean, even I think the IDA kind of stairs steers everybody to Josh.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And for that reason.
Speaker A:So he really talks about the, you know, the do's and the don'ts.
Speaker A:Like, when I talk about, you know, not drowning the car out and covering the computer and the distributors and stuff, he's talking about not knocking a sensor off and, and jeopardizing somebody's life.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So it's definitely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what.
Speaker B:I, I've.
Speaker B:I've.
Speaker B:I've only done a couple of planes and.
Speaker B:And you know, they were mainly just kind of like washing waxes and, and the guys, like, you know, you can't touch this.
Speaker B:You can't get any water here.
Speaker B:You know, so you got to be real careful.
Speaker B:And, and it's never been one of those things where, you know, I was like, I want to do planes.
Speaker B:You know, it's kind of like boats for me.
Speaker B:Like, they're just too big.
Speaker B:I don't want to do them.
Speaker B:But I'll tell you what, there's this guy on Tick Tock, I don't know what his name is.
Speaker B:There's this guy on Tick Tock that, that I, I saw a couple of his videos pop up in my feed last night.
Speaker B:And, and he starts out his thing, he's like, follow me along as I detail planes until I can afford to buy one my.
Speaker B:Myself or whatever.
Speaker B:And, and he says he's only been doing it for three or four months and he's already done like $3 million in business.
Speaker B:And he talks about, you know, like, hey, we, you know, this client called us out and, and I don't know, it could be social media, it could just be pulling out of his ass or whatever, right?
Speaker B:But, you know, he's like, hey, this client calls us out, super emergency, needs to get the plane done, yada, yada, yada.
Speaker B:So I have to charge him, you know, like, like a, like a, an upfront or not an upfront fee, but like a deposit.
Speaker B:Well, no, no, not even the deposit.
Speaker B:A, A, like, like, like a rush fee.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Because it.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:He's like, I charged him $4,000 for a rush fee.
Speaker B:He goes, I had to buy a lift to be able to do it.
Speaker B:So I charged him the $8,000 that the lift costs us.
Speaker B:And then he's like.
Speaker B:And then the detail of the plane was like $11,000.
Speaker B:And I'm like, Jesus Christ, this guy made like $22,000 just like washing a plane.
Speaker A:Well, you know, you know, it's funny that you said that because I, I did the, I was a supply, a supplier for detailing and you know, and I also supplied for car washes, you know, full, I mean large car washes.
Speaker A:And people say well, what's the difference?
Speaker A:I go, well, most of my customers were like a 500 stop on the detail side, give or take some.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But most of the people that I sold to on the car war side was five thousand dollar sales per stop.
Speaker A:And I would bet that some of those high dollar planes you've got high dollar money and you know, it could be far fetched on some of the, what he's made.
Speaker A:It's kind of jealous because he could make that kind of money just starting out.
Speaker B:Three or four, three or four months in, he's already made like $3 million.
Speaker A:Like, oh, I'd like to see that, those books.
Speaker A:But you know, but, but yeah, there is a, you know, it is the Internet, that's all I can say.
Speaker A:And it could, it could be legit too, I don't know.
Speaker A:But, but yeah, the big, the bigger the client usually the bigger the money.
Speaker B:And, and I feel the same way.
Speaker B:I mean you could flip it onto like boats, you know, I mean if, if you're doing a 50 foot, 80 foot yacht, that's you know, a couple hundred million dollars.
Speaker B:I mean that's not, that's not no thousand dollar wash job, you know, kind of, you know, so you're, you're spending some money or you know, they're paying some money for it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But yeah, those, those jobs are just a little bit too big for me.
Speaker B:I, I like little cars.
Speaker A:I know, I know there too.
Speaker A:I know Kurt was talking about yachts and boats and you know, we had a very diverse group of airplanes, cars, yachts, you name it, that were coming to this show.
Speaker A:I don't know how many yachts and boats are going to be there, but I think there is going to be one of the coding companies doing a boat detailing class.
Speaker A: ame up to our class, he drove: Speaker A:And, and we found out that he needed a lot of help.
Speaker A:We're going to try to get Sebastian to come up to the Shine Time and embrace him with more love and support and knowledge to get him up to speed.
Speaker A:He wants to take, he wants to take his IDA test and we want to make sure he's ready before he takes it.
Speaker A:So, so, but yeah, definitely, you know, and then there's just a lot going on with, with the training.
Speaker A:Like I said, Chris Metcalf will be there with me in our booth with the Flex polishers.
Speaker A:We'll have our select line of products, the ones that I used at the detail competition.
Speaker A:And we're bringing the, you know, the detail meter there.
Speaker A:And we're.
Speaker A:We're wanting to try to focus on.
Speaker A:Trying to, you know, get geared up for that.
Speaker A:And I know, I know you have a lot to do with that.
Speaker B:And I mean, I have something to do with it.
Speaker B:I haven't been doing a whole lot with it lately, so I don't know.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it's amazing the, the comments and the thousands of responses I got back from that.
Speaker A:And, you know, it's a life lesson where I sat and watched these guys, you know, detailing these panels and sweating bullets.
Speaker A:And I mean, they were pushing that five minutes to a limit.
Speaker A:And I thought, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker A:I'm going to go up there.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be serious, don't get me wrong, but I'm gonna go up and have fun during the process.
Speaker A:And I am so glad that I did that because I think.
Speaker A:I think we're gonna get more people because of what I did.
Speaker A:We're hopefully going to get some more characters like myself to get in there.
Speaker A:And, you know, the comments that came out of that, like, the guys that are, oh, I'll tell you what, if I'd done it, I would have.
Speaker A:Want it.
Speaker A:You know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:I said, well, great, I'll sign you up for next year.
Speaker A:How's that?
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Let's get.
Speaker A:Let's get after it.
Speaker A:Well, I don't know about that, you know, exactly.
Speaker B:Everybody can win it until it's time to, to put cash down and, and actually show up for it, you know, and that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I always knew that was going to be the problem.
Speaker B:I think we, we as a committee always knew that that was going to be the problem.
Speaker B:That's why we just try to.
Speaker B:We just tried to make it fun.
Speaker B:But we also tried to make it to the point to where there was this little human interaction other than the contestant, you know, on the panel.
Speaker B:So then nobody could be the, you know, well, my panel this or their panel that, or you guys did this, or this was different or, you know, and that's why we did it all, all with that detailometer.
Speaker B:That way it was, you know, fair and accurate readings.
Speaker B:You know, we took averages, you know, multiple, multiple readings per panel.
Speaker B:Multiple readings per location on the panel, you know, so nobody could come back and, and say, you know, that it wasn't fair.
Speaker B:It wasn't, you know, whatever, whatever the, the thing was.
Speaker B:And, and, you know, was it.
Speaker B:Was it 100 by?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:No, it wasn't.
Speaker B:I mean, we did it as close as we, you know, obviously, there's people that are gonna, you know, find some, Some negatives with it or whatever.
Speaker B:And again, most of those people were keyboard warriors, weren't it?
Speaker B:Weren't there?
Speaker B:Everybody that was there that did it had a blast, enjoyed it, you know, was just kind of like, look, like, I don't even care if I win.
Speaker B:I just wanted to do it.
Speaker B:There were so many people watching that wanted to get in on it, you know, that we couldn't because we only had X amount of pans.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I mean, I, I look, I look at it more by, by the reaction at mte, the reaction online to me, you know, unless people are saying, like, good things about it, the reaction on online, I didn't really pay too much attention to the reaction at MTE was what I looked at.
Speaker B:And we hit a home run is the way I see it.
Speaker A:You know, think about this, Alex.
Speaker A:If you had done that with a view of, like, certain clienteles and certain brands, you'd have to bring boxing gloves for that.
Speaker A:There'd be a fight.
Speaker A:There'd be a riot.
Speaker A:You know, with having that detail meter, you know, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's going to take that human element out of it.
Speaker A:And when.
Speaker A:When I seen, you know, likes of Mike Phillips jumping in there and Brian from Dura Slick and Steve Pursa and, And your.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And your buddy Aaron Knox out there, and, you know, I'm just glad I beat all those guys.
Speaker A:The old man still got something in them, don't he?
Speaker A:Yeah, but I got calls, and they're like, bob, if you wasn't sitting there screwing around and waving to the crowd, you probably could have won that damn thing.
Speaker A:And I go, you know what?
Speaker A:I, I, I want it in my mind, I want it because I had fun, and I got the crowd involved and threw some stuff.
Speaker A:Adam, why?
Speaker A:In the process.
Speaker A:And it was, it was fun, you know, and I think that's what I wanted to accomplish is to say, hey.
Speaker B:You know, what I loved most about it was that, you know, first of all, that somebody from the US Won it, right?
Speaker B:Mike.
Speaker B:Mike Grant won it from the U.S.
Speaker B:but we had, we had Paulo come in second from Canada, and then we had Mark from Australia come in third.
Speaker B:To me, that was that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And, you know, Brian, I think, was the other Canadian, but other than that, everybody was here from the US And I thought that that was, you know, great that it worked out that way, that we had a true international podium.
Speaker A:Yes, you know, yes, For.
Speaker B:For this.
Speaker B:For this, you know, first ever, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:I mean, if we.
Speaker B:If it would have just been all U.
Speaker B:S.
Speaker B:Guys and, you know, whatever, it still would have been, you know, a win.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:I really liked that it was a true international panel or podium.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You know, it just showed that, you know, hey, you know, people from all over the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The world, you know, came.
Speaker B:Came to this event and decided to.
Speaker B:To throw down and see what they could do.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Oh, it.
Speaker A:It was a.
Speaker A:It was a riot.
Speaker A:And, you know, not only that, you know, we, you know, it gives everybody an opportunity to.
Speaker A:To see what they're using and how it compares with, like, some of the top people in the world, what they're using and gives you, like, a barometer of where.
Speaker B:Where.
Speaker A:Where are you with your product line.
Speaker A:And, you know, I know.
Speaker A:I know some of its technique and the pads and all that kind of stuff, but, you know, it gives you an idea that, hey, you know, that top five, you know, you could split a hair on who Every.
Speaker A:Every one of those top fives, from what I could see, basically want it, you know, it.
Speaker A:Yeah, even the top.
Speaker A:Even the top 10 was, like, just there, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was pretty close all the way around.
Speaker B:And I'll tell you what, I mean, you know, it really was a great thing that we.
Speaker B:That we use that tool to do it because, yeah, you know, I.
Speaker B:I got to watch a lot of the people who.
Speaker B:Who competed.
Speaker B:I got to see a lot of the finished pans.
Speaker B:And I'll tell you what, had I been judging Steve, Persia would have won that.
Speaker B:I thought Steve's pan was absolutely flawless, just from the way that I looked at it.
Speaker B:It was a beautiful pan.
Speaker B:And I think Persia ended up, like, 15th or something, you know, so it tells you, you know, how.
Speaker B:How the human eye isn't as good as.
Speaker B:As that detailometer for.
Speaker A:For measuring stuff, you know, and, you know, it.
Speaker A:Brian called me, you know, and he goes, my God, you were screwing around, and you still beat me by five positions.
Speaker A:And, you know, if you know me and Brian from Duras Lake, Finn, you know, I.
Speaker A:I've been messing with him all his life.
Speaker A:And, you know, I had to talk him.
Speaker A:I said, do I need to talk you off a ledge here?
Speaker A:Are you okay?
Speaker A:And he goes.
Speaker A:He goes, I suck as a detailer.
Speaker A:I go, no, you don't.
Speaker A:I said, your pa.
Speaker A:Your panel.
Speaker A:Actually, his was another one of the panels that looked like.
Speaker A:Almost like Steve's.
Speaker A:It looked pretty dang good, you know, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, so, yeah, the human eye.
Speaker A:I know my eyes are older eyes, so I.
Speaker A:You wouldn't want me as the judge anymore at.
Speaker A:I'd have some young guy looking at it.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I'll tell you what, those.
Speaker B:Those little machines are fun.
Speaker B:You know, I.
Speaker B:I just did a.
Speaker B:A brand new Toyota GR86 for a client, and I coded it yesterday for him, polished it and coated it.
Speaker B:He came to pick it up today, and.
Speaker B:And while he was there, I was like, oh, oh, shoot, hang on.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I forgot.
Speaker B:I need to do something before.
Speaker B:Before you leave real quick.
Speaker B:And he's like, oh, okay, what you got?
Speaker B:And so I pulled out my detailometer and I, you know, slapped it right on the middle of the hood.
Speaker B:And, you know, I had a.
Speaker B:An 84 gloss reading 0 haze.
Speaker B:I had a, like a 90 almost a 98 doi and a 97riq.
Speaker B:And he's like, what is that?
Speaker B:And so, like, I, you know, I'm kind of showing him.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:He's like.
Speaker B:He's like, not only.
Speaker B:Not only does it look great, but you can back it up with a.
Speaker B:With a machine that tells you how good it looks.
Speaker B:And I said, yeah, man, you know, like, that's just how I do it, you know?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So let's talk about that for a second, if we could, in layman's terms, it.
Speaker A:Measure.
Speaker A:It will measure the paint, right?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So it's a pa.
Speaker A:It's a paint gauge.
Speaker A:It's also measuring the.
Speaker B:Well, no, no, it's not.
Speaker B:It won't measure paint.
Speaker B:No, it won't measure paint thickness.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You have to.
Speaker B:You have to use the other tool.
Speaker B:You have to use the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:Yeah, the paint gauge.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So it measures the definition.
Speaker A:The definition of the gloss and the gloss.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Any.
Speaker A:Anything else.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So it.
Speaker B:So there's a couple of different things that it.
Speaker B:That it does.
Speaker B:So the four readings that we did for.
Speaker B:For the competition was.
Speaker B:Was gloss haze, the distinctness of image, which is your image clarity, and then.
Speaker B:And then reflective.
Speaker B:Or wait, what is it?
Speaker B:It's riq, reflective image quality.
Speaker B:So then it.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:So it measures the.
Speaker A:It measures the lack of haze.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And then there's a fifth one that we didn't use, which is R R spec.
Speaker B:And then that I believe, if I remember correctly and if Daryl listens to it and I get it wrong, he's probably gonna call me up, cuss me out.
Speaker B:I think measures like the defects.
Speaker B:So like, if you still had some light swirling or, or whatever there, and I think there might be a couple of other ones that are like hidden kind of readings that you could get into with that machine.
Speaker B:Like, apparently it does a lot.
Speaker B:Does a lot.
Speaker B:But yeah, the main ones that, that we used was gloss haze reflective image quality and then the distinctive image quality, which is your, your clarity and your, your reflective image and everything.
Speaker A:And if you're out there and you want to play with that, you know, come to the Houston Shine Time Expo, I'm gonna have it there on our hood because I'm going to be playing with it myself and anybody that wants to, maybe we can have a friendly competition or something, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, pre.
Speaker A:Pre season game, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:So, so what ended up mattering the most in the.
Speaker B:In the competition because everybody's numbers were so close, so what ended up really kind of bring being the tiebreaker was, was the, the doi, the distinctive image quality or the distinctive of image or whatever distinctness of image.
Speaker B:That's what really kind of came down to those numbers.
Speaker B:So you could have had, let's say, better gloss than.
Speaker B:Than Mike that got number one, or you could have had a better haze than, you know, like Persia could have had better haze than you or whatever.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But where it really kind of came down to was that doi, and that was kind of like the, the tiebreaker number, and that was the number that everybody kind of got, you know, lined up in.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that, that clarity reflection of.
Speaker B:Of that is a little bit more important.
Speaker B:That's why we chose that reading as kind of the, the one that we went by.
Speaker B:But yeah, I mean, and, and realistically, I mean, I've got the results right here.
Speaker B:Wait, I'm sorry, that's.
Speaker A:Let.
Speaker A:Let me ask.
Speaker A:Let me ask you something.
Speaker A:A few people ask me, and you might be better fit, but the very far right column, huh?
Speaker A:That's the paint that you didn't take off like the, the was what, what, what was that?
Speaker A:Because people were asking about that particular reading.
Speaker A:Is that when you were done.
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:That was your paint thickness when you were done?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:So all the pans were painted.
Speaker B:I think all the pans were somewhere between four and like five and a half mils.
Speaker B:We, we wanted Them just, we wanted them to be at least over 4.
Speaker B:Not too crazy because we wanted to replicate OEM paint or factory paint.
Speaker A:So, so that no, no one knew what.
Speaker A:That's the thing about me.
Speaker A:I do the history of paints and I talk about everything that you, you, everything you got to throw out the window if you're dealing with a hard Audi ceramic clear paint.
Speaker B:Yeah, we made, we made all the information for the paint available now.
Speaker B:People didn't, people didn't see it.
Speaker B:I got the actual, I mean, hang on a second, I'll look it up real quick while I've got you on the phone.
Speaker B:So if I, I asked, I asked the guy, my buddy who painted it, I asked him exactly, you know, what paint he used, what clear coat he used.
Speaker B:So he used.
Speaker B:Let me make sure I could find it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B: ard black, super, super black: Speaker B: M wet: Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And then he used Exalta Clear, which is a fast drying hard clear.
Speaker B:Because he wanted to be able to make sure that, you know, because he got the pans like mid December and mte was end of January.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And he knew it was going to take him a week or so to paint the pans in between the other stuff that he was doing.
Speaker B:So he wanted to use a hard or a fast drying clear so that we had plenty of time that we didn't have to worry about outgassing and waiting 30 days or 60 days or anything like that.
Speaker B:So he used that Exalta paint or the exotic Exalta Clear, which I talked to Rose and he's like, yeah, that's a, that's a good one.
Speaker B:So basically what he did was he did a, an epoxy he sent.
Speaker B:So he's.
Speaker B:Because they were aluminum pant, aluminum cookie sheets.
Speaker B:So he sanded, sanded the pants, he laid down an epoxy, then he did the, the metal X paint.
Speaker B:Then he, then he did the, the Exalta Clear.
Speaker B:Building it up.
Speaker B:Because I gave him my.
Speaker B:What is it?
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:And I always get it wrong.
Speaker B:It's the, the paint meter that Sean Kozier sells the next, next ng, pg, PNG or whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah, so I gave him, I gave him my, my, my meter so that he could meter him when he was done and if he needed to add more clear to build them up or, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:And then like I said, any.
Speaker B:And then it was 15 grit hand sanded.
Speaker B:And, and that's, that's how we did it.
Speaker B:All of them were shot the same, Done the same, you know, Same.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I, I, I used the metal locks on my sister's car when she wrecked the Defender.
Speaker A:And you know, and it's, it's all, it's all in that clear when it's all I know.
Speaker A:We, we did a, we had, we did a, we brought a panel to mobile tech years ago and I was an IDA trainer, you know, and I was doing skills validation and they brought the hood in and I didn't, we didn't.
Speaker A:With body shop painted it and they started scuffing it with, I don't know, real hard compound.
Speaker A:And they couldn't get stuff, they couldn't get it out.
Speaker A:They're like, we can't get this to work.
Speaker A:And I'm like, what, call, call the body shop.
Speaker A:What, what did he, what do you, what do you do?
Speaker A:What did he say?
Speaker A:What did he put on there?
Speaker A:On the clear.
Speaker A:And it was like an extremely hard, very dense, high density show clear that was a rock hard.
Speaker A:And in, in that case, you had to use like a lambswool pad with our select system to get those out.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's not the real world that we, that we really are in.
Speaker B:And that's why I wanted, I wanted my buddy to use because he does a lot of dealership work, spot sprays and things like that.
Speaker B:So I wanted him to use something that he would, you know, just put on a, on a, on a regular car.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:When this competition the year before was being championed by the last person who was trying to do it, they wanted to use show clear.
Speaker B:And I was like, like, I don't think that's a smart idea.
Speaker B:You know, but that's, but that's what they were thinking.
Speaker B:They were thinking like, oh, it's got to be show clear.
Speaker B:It's got to be like super hard.
Speaker B:It's got to be whatever, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:So I'm glad we did it the way that we did it this year.
Speaker B:Next year.
Speaker B:I'm not sure.
Speaker B:Jason Rose might have a better idea for us where, you know, some of his, some of his connections with the manufacturing industry, he might be able to get the pans painted a little more precise through robotics and then sanded more precise through robotics.
Speaker B:So I don't know, we'll see, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker B:You know, if he can pull that off.
Speaker B:If not, then, then I'll just take him back to my butt because have all the pans.
Speaker B:So I'll just Take them back to my buddy and just tell them to sand it all off and start over again.
Speaker B:The other thing that I think that's.
Speaker B:That threw a lot of people off, Mike Phillips being one of them, because he kept complaining about how hard the paint was.
Speaker B:It's hard paint.
Speaker B:It's hard paint.
Speaker B:Super hard.
Speaker B:Super hard.
Speaker B:And he was grinding away and grinding away.
Speaker B:And I think what, you know, some people didn't understand was underneath the pans, because the pans are, you know, flipped to where you're actually polishing the bottom of the pan that would sit on the oven.
Speaker B:Sheldon had three wooden blocks that the pan would sit over so that you wouldn't get any bowing or bending, you know, which, you know, was a good idea, I guess.
Speaker B:But I think that threw a lot of people off because then the pan was very stiff and sturdy because it had those wooden blocks underneath it.
Speaker B:And I think it was giving people the wrong idea that the, that the paint was hard because the pan was just so hard with those blocks underneath.
Speaker A:Well, you know, I, I, I cut it with a 100% lambswool with the rotary.
Speaker A: , get the productive, get the: Speaker A:So I could get on to jeweling.
Speaker A:But I would, I would say it wasn't the hardest clear I've ever used.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was a.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:If you had soft, medium, and hard, I would say 3/4.
Speaker A:It's medium, 3/4 between hardened.
Speaker A:So it was a little harder than the normal paint.
Speaker A:But it wasn't.
Speaker A:I thought it was.
Speaker A:I thought you did a great job in picking the, the clear.
Speaker A:Because it's a detail competition.
Speaker A:You don't want to.
Speaker A:You don't want it to be too easy.
Speaker A:You could throw them off, too, and go with an extremely GM black paint.
Speaker A:They would really be messed up because they would be, like, trying to get that right.
Speaker A:But that would be another, Another contest in itself.
Speaker A:But, but, yeah, I think you did good on the hardness, because that's what I teach when I do the seminars that you teach.
Speaker A:The hardness of paints and how to.
Speaker A:How that changes the whole everything, you know, so.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, so, I mean, it's, it.
Speaker B:Listen, it was, it was fun.
Speaker B:I mean, I, I still like to kind of showboat a little bit, because I did a test panel when, you know, Sheldon was like, you know, we got to figure out a time.
Speaker B:You know, we don't.
Speaker B:You know, some people are like, you know, five minutes.
Speaker B:Some people are like seven minutes.
Speaker B:Some people are like 10 minutes.
Speaker B:You know, Sheldon's like, look, can you just take one of the pans and can you do it and see how long it takes you to do it?
Speaker B:And so I was like, yeah, okay, that's fine.
Speaker B:But I didn't have a way to lock the pans down or secure the pans, so I had to hold the pan one handed and run my, my Bigfoot one handed, almost like a, like an orbital.
Speaker B:Because I had to, you know, hold it up on the top by the motor versus down by the handle.
Speaker B:And, and I told Sheldon, I was like, sheldon, man, I did it in like two and a half minutes.
Speaker B:You know, I was like, I think if we do five minutes, we're fine.
Speaker B:And what's funny is when I metered my one handed pan and I just did a.
Speaker B:I just did.
Speaker B:I used Obert cut with a Rupes microfiber pad, and I used Obert polish with a Oberg polishing pad.
Speaker B:And my numbers would have probably put me in top five ish, you know, So I like to brag a little.
Speaker A:Bit that, like, no, that's correct.
Speaker A:You got to get in the arena, man.
Speaker A:You got to be in there.
Speaker B:Well, I can't because I'm a part of it.
Speaker B:Then everybody be like, oh, like he's a part of it.
Speaker A:So, you know, you're right.
Speaker A:I think the five minutes was, you know, I probably spent a few.
Speaker A:Half a minute screwing around, but, But I think the five minutes was very fair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because, you know, you don't.
Speaker A:If you gave him 10, you know, we, we, we could have, we could have really made that thing even better.
Speaker A:But I think, I think production efficiency, that's, that's a fair.
Speaker A:You know, some people work a little faster too.
Speaker A:But I think that five minutes, you don't need to mess with it.
Speaker A:I think, because when I got done, I, I remember looking at Jason and saying, you know what we got left?
Speaker A:He said 10 seconds.
Speaker A:And I thought, okay, I, I wanted to wipe it.
Speaker A:And a lot of people don't know that, but my product, I left it in my.
Speaker A:It froze in my back of my Suburban.
Speaker A:And when I went to take it off, the final thing, it stuck.
Speaker A:So I was, I was trying to get it off and it was stick because, you know, frozen product doesn't come off very well.
Speaker A:But I'm not using it as an excuse.
Speaker A:But I'm just saying that's why I threw the towel, because I thought, man, this stuff's not coming off like I like it normally does.
Speaker A:But I did Pretty good, though.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm not gonna.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker B:You know, that's.
Speaker B:That's the one thing that the.
Speaker B:The one change we definitely are making for, for 26 is, is the panel wipe.
Speaker B:So, you know, with the five minutes, we wanted you to have enough time, but we didn't want to give you too much time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like you said.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Ten minutes, you know, And I told Sheldon, I said, sheldon, if we don't make it a short amount of time, you know, detailers could spend the whole weekend at MTE on these pans trying to, you know, trying to get it perfect.
Speaker B:We just.
Speaker B:We have to.
Speaker B:We have to give it a short amount of time.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And so Sheldon and I kind of made that call.
Speaker B:I think Rose was shooting for the 10 minutes.
Speaker B:He thought we should give them more time.
Speaker B:But the change that we're going to make for next year is regardless of time, all the pans need to be wiped.
Speaker B:Because we didn't want to wipe the pans, and we didn't really.
Speaker B:We didn't really, like, discuss that in the beginning.
Speaker B:And so we kind of didn't want people, you know, after your five minutes, you don't touch the pan.
Speaker B:You know, it's kind of like pencils down, you know, you're done.
Speaker B:So if they wiped during the five minutes, great.
Speaker B:If they didn't, then whatever.
Speaker B:And that's where we realized we.
Speaker B:We kind of messed up.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So next year, it'll be regardless, you know, you can.
Speaker B:If you take the whole five minutes, we're gonna give, you know, okay, go ahead and wipe your pan, you know, before we.
Speaker B:Before we start metering it.
Speaker A:Well, you know, I.
Speaker A:I'm just talking about, you know, racing here, and, you know, usually the best cheater wins sometimes, you know, so.
Speaker A:And I'm not saying nobody cheated.
Speaker A:I'm just saying what the wipe down will do is if somebody fortified their product with oils and fillers, it could have.
Speaker A:It could have done a little bit better on the reed.
Speaker A:And I think.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Because I teach that.
Speaker A:I teach that all the time.
Speaker A:Where we want to do a panel, when that car sets out on that lot, it needs to look good for.
Speaker A:Until it sells.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, you know, we teach that to wipe them down to make sure that you have a true finish before you put the top coat or the wax or whatever else, we want to know that all the swirls are out of it.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:And that would.
Speaker A:First of all, it would eliminate anybody that fortified their top coats so that's.
Speaker B:Another thing we discussed is when you sign up, you have to.
Speaker B:Or so.
Speaker B:So when you sign up, you'll have to register your compounds and polishes.
Speaker B:Because we.
Speaker B:We did have somebody.
Speaker B:We can't prove it other than the fact that Jason said it tried to sneak one by.
Speaker B:And the only reason why Jason didn't disqualify him was because it ended up hurting him.
Speaker B:So the person was using Uno pure, which was fine because it doesn't have any sealers or, you know, enhancers in it or whatever.
Speaker B:But Jason.
Speaker B:Jason said, that's.
Speaker B:That's not Uno Pure.
Speaker B:And I was like, really?
Speaker B:He goes, yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And it's funny because you mentioned Brian Fan, because I was talking to Brian Fan, and Brian's like, how do you know?
Speaker B:And I looked at Brian, I was like, this guy drinks probably this stuff, you know, And.
Speaker B:And Jason looked at him, he goes, I know my products, you know, so there was.
Speaker B:There was something that they had put in the bottle or something.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But the thing was, is Jason said when he cut it and then he switched to go to what was supposed to be un.
Speaker B:Uno pure to finish it down, it actually hazed his pan back up.
Speaker B:So he's like.
Speaker B:It actually hurt him.
Speaker B:So Jason's like, that's why I didn't disqualify him.
Speaker B:But we did talk about.
Speaker B:Because of that, we did talk about you need to register the compounds and polishes you're using.
Speaker B:And we will have unopened bottles so that we know that there's no tampering.
Speaker B:So, you know, if somebody uses rupes, obviously Jason will put that up.
Speaker B:If somebody's using angel wax for, you know, we'll go to Tommy and, hey, Tommy, can we get a, you know, a bottle, a fresh bottle or whatever somebody's using, you know, whatever your guys's stuff, you know, hey, can.
Speaker B:Can we get, you know, unopened bottles or whatever?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And that way we can try to, you know, make sure that that doesn't happen.
Speaker B:Now, again, that's what we've talked about.
Speaker B:We haven't.
Speaker B:You know, that was just our meeting after mte.
Speaker B:We haven't really had a meeting since.
Speaker B:So we'll.
Speaker B:We'll see where it goes from.
Speaker B:You know, the panel prep would be something that will also provide so that, you know, somebody can't have a sp.
Speaker B:Spray wax and a panel prep bottle, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, Alex, that reminds me of a couple old, you know, fat one of those fast buy your pay here auction guys that he would.
Speaker A:He'd get Some checked paint that was all checked and he'd mix up like some Vaseline and mineral oil with diesel fuel.
Speaker A:And he called it the dusty road treatment.
Speaker A:He would smear this all over that check paint, you know, check paint looks like Crowfit.
Speaker A:It had a white haze.
Speaker A:It took all that out.
Speaker A:And he'd send it, he'd said the same car to like the night auction.
Speaker A:And then the interior was trash and he would take all the lights and bust the bulbs so no one could really see.
Speaker A:See what the interior looks like.
Speaker A:But hell, it looked like it was on fire.
Speaker A:Wet.
Speaker A:I mean, it was wet because it really was wet with diesel fuel and kerosene.
Speaker A:And so he had this crazy mixture, but he, he sold a ton of them.
Speaker A:But the car was totally.
Speaker A:It was a total false paint.
Speaker A:I mean, it looked.
Speaker A:But I, I think about that dusty roads treatment when I think about, you got to wipe the, you got to wipe the panels down.
Speaker A:You know, we don't want any, anybody fortifying that finish, you know, so, yeah.
Speaker B:So, I mean, we'll, we'll try to tighten that up.
Speaker B:I think, you know, at least that's, We've already kind of discussed it, so I think we'll, we'll try to do that.
Speaker B:I mean, I think for the most part, it's.
Speaker B:Version two is going to be very similar to version one.
Speaker B:Some minor, some minor tweaks until we can kind of, you know, really hone it and, and get it rocking and rolling.
Speaker B:But, you know, Sheldon's, Sheldon's gonna have some more.
Speaker B:It did, it did really well.
Speaker B:You know, it, it.
Speaker B:No issues.
Speaker B:You know, that was his biggest thing for many, many years.
Speaker B:People kept telling him, you can't do it.
Speaker B:There's going to be fights like the egos this, the that.
Speaker B:So, you know, when we kept bringing it up and bringing it up and bringing it up every year on the podcast, it finally got out there to where then people were asking him at MTE when are we going to do this?
Speaker B:We need this, the details, the detail side needs it.
Speaker B:And that's, that's really what, you know, kind of, you know, broke the, the camel's back in a, in a sense, because he, he really did not want to, want to do it because he was told by, you know, higher up people in the industry like it's going to lead to fights.
Speaker B:You know, you're going to have, you know, this, that and the other, and.
Speaker A:And yeah, you, you know, I got, I got to talk to a lot of the guys after it and nothing but Mute.
Speaker A:Respect that I gave.
Speaker A:I gave.
Speaker A:I gave the respect they.
Speaker A:They gave me.
Speaker A:And most of the people came up said, you know, the people that were in the arena that actually did it, they.
Speaker A:They got street credit with me because there's a lot of egos out there, and I'm not going to name anybody, but, you know, where.
Speaker A:Where's these guys at when.
Speaker A:When something like this happens?
Speaker A:I'm so glad of the people that got into it, that even some of the people that were not real seasoned that got into it, that gave him the courage to get in there and compete.
Speaker A:You know, with.
Speaker A:I think about it, you got Steve Purse, Brian Finn.
Speaker A:Noxy has his own TV show, and Mike Phillips.
Speaker A:You know, that guy's competition ready.
Speaker A:I mean, that there wasn't.
Speaker A:There wasn't a bunch of flakes in there that was.
Speaker A:Have some pretty good detailers in there.
Speaker A:So they can't.
Speaker A:They can't say that there was not good competitions.
Speaker B:And I'll tell you.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what, it was fun afterwards, like, you know, having that meter.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We did a training with Noxie, like a month later, beginning of.
Speaker B:Beginning of March up at Noxy's place.
Speaker B:And Noxie was like, hey, bring.
Speaker B:Bring that meter with you if you can.
Speaker B:And I said, yeah, I'll bring it with you or with me.
Speaker B:And, you know, because he wanted to see it, he wanted to play around with it a little bit.
Speaker B:And so while we.
Speaker B:We did this training, we had.
Speaker B:We had.
Speaker B:We had six people at the training.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So Noxy, after everybody did their wet sanding training and the rotary training, you know, we did all that on Saturday, and.
Speaker B:And they attacked the car and was doing all this stuff.
Speaker B:So Sunday we came in and.
Speaker B:And Noxy set up the hoods and he goes, okay, he goes, we're gonna do a paint correction style competition.
Speaker B:And he's like, winner gets a hundred bucks.
Speaker B:He pulled 100 bucks out of his pocket.
Speaker B:And so they.
Speaker B:We competed like.
Speaker B:Or they competed in twos.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And when they were done, I, you know, I told him, I said, you.
Speaker B:Because we didn't have, you know, a template or anything like that they were working on.
Speaker B:You know, they had a spot on the hood that they were working on.
Speaker B:And so I would tell them, like, okay, you know, or Knoxy was like, point out three places in your spot.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:Alex is going to take a reading in each one of those three places.
Speaker B:You know, we had them take pictures of.
Speaker B:Of the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B:The detailometers with their phone.
Speaker B:And then when it was Done.
Speaker B:You know, they.
Speaker B:They wrote down their best one, right?
Speaker B:So out of the three, they wrote down their best one.
Speaker B:And then I went through.
Speaker B:Just like we did at the.
Speaker A:The de.
Speaker B:The paint cartion competition.
Speaker B:I went through and, you know, figured out, you know, how.
Speaker B:How to do it, and we picked a winner, and that person got 100 bucks, so.
Speaker B:So we had fun with it.
Speaker B:You know, that's.
Speaker B:That's a little something you might do at your next training.
Speaker B:You got that?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, that, you know, getting people the confidence and, like, you know, people that if they don't know Noxie.
Speaker A:I mean, the dude, he.
Speaker A:He can.
Speaker A:He can jewel and make paint dance, and he's no joke at all.
Speaker A:And Mike.
Speaker A:Mike Phillips and even, bro, I've seen Brian and I've done training with Brian and Steve, and man, those.
Speaker A:Those guys are legit.
Speaker A:I mean, they really are seasoned.
Speaker A:You know, probably we.
Speaker A:Maybe we don't have the eyes that some of the young, young bucks have, but.
Speaker A:But that was a lot of fun.
Speaker A:Like I said, I'm so glad I did it.
Speaker A:And it was.
Speaker A:Was involved with that first one and.
Speaker A:And tried to be the cheerleader and the.
Speaker A:The clown and a little bit everything at the same time and the motivator.
Speaker A:So most of the people said, bob, you know, you're going to give me the inspiration to do it next year.
Speaker A:I said, absolutely.
Speaker A:That's what I hope.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:I hope we sell it out.
Speaker B:It was a slow.
Speaker B:It was a slow sell, you know, but once it started getting closer and closer to mt, like, surprisingly, it sold out.
Speaker B:I mean, we did.
Speaker B:We did 20 spots, and Sheldon's like, look, if I get 10, I'll be happy, you know, And.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:We did 20, you know, and then had people begging us to sign up.
Speaker B:You know, we had some people that ended up not showing up or.
Speaker B:Or didn't come for their time slot.
Speaker B:So we were able to take some of the people that were at MTE and wanted to get in, because then we had free extra pans.
Speaker B:We were able to, like, take those people.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:No, it.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm excited.
Speaker B:Looking forward to next year.
Speaker B:Sheldon's gonna have more people working to boost, so hopefully I don't have to.
Speaker B:Me and Jason don't have to work the booth as much.
Speaker B:I can actually do some stuff with Aquatech and.
Speaker B:And float back and forth.
Speaker B:I'm excited to kind of, you know, hopefully maybe just be more of a.
Speaker B:Of a spectator than.
Speaker B:Than, you know, being A being a part of it.
Speaker B:We've got a bunch of ideas.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, they.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:I don't know how we would do it, but, you know, they want to do a.
Speaker B:Like a leaderboard.
Speaker B:Want to put, like, a TV or some kind of something where we can actually have a leaderboard.
Speaker B:I don't know how we would do that because Daryl and Dave had to do all those calculations at night.
Speaker B:You know, they had to record everything and then.
Speaker B:And then go back to their hotel room each night and.
Speaker B:And download all the material.
Speaker B:So I don't know how we would do all that.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But, you know, that was one of the ideas that was brought up to where.
Speaker B:That way, you know, the people walking around could see, like, okay, who's.
Speaker B:Who's in first, who's in second, you know, what's on third, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:So I don't know.
Speaker B:You know, we'll see that.
Speaker B:We also talked about, you know, Sheldon just didn't do it this year.
Speaker B:We talked about, you know, for.
Speaker B:For next year, getting a digital clock that can kind of be on that big wall so everybody that's watching can actually see the time.
Speaker A:Hey, you know.
Speaker A:You know, for us old guys, why don't you get me a real big one about the size of a basketball so I can see it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I'm sitting there thinking to myself, okay, how much time do I got left?
Speaker A:And just.
Speaker A:Jason goes, 10 seconds.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, crap.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I threw my buffer over, and then I started wiping, so I thought I had a little more time, but I.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a.
Speaker A:There's a lot going on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're.
Speaker B:And you're paying attention to what you're doing, so you're not really thinking about the clock.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's what I liked about Jason was real good about, you know, two minutes in, three minutes in.
Speaker B:You got a minute left, 30 seconds left.
Speaker B:You know, when Jason had to run off and do some stuff, he's like, make sure you let them know how much time they got, you know, because, you know, they're.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're concentrated on that pan, and they're not looking up it.
Speaker B:So, you know, the couple times I had to do it, I had to, you know, make sure I was like, okay, two and a half minutes in.
Speaker B:You got one minute left.
Speaker B:You know, so, you know.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:You know, it's funny about that.
Speaker A:This is a little secret.
Speaker A:Jason will probably hear this and see it.
Speaker A:You know, Jason was getting awful close to those Panels, and he was getting into my personal space, so I.
Speaker A:I had to load the pad on the edge a little more than what I normal do.
Speaker A:He jumped back as soon as I.
Speaker A:I turned on the rotary.
Speaker A:And then when I was waving at him.
Speaker A:I don't think I ever seen Jason laugh like that before.
Speaker A:To see Jason Rose laugh.
Speaker A:And when I was waving to the crowd and it was.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That was a lot.
Speaker A:And Rod and Jody were losing it back there too, so that's pretty much.
Speaker A:It's pretty fun.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it was a blast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Jason.
Speaker B:I remember Jason.
Speaker B:A few times Jason told me, I'm glad I wore my.
Speaker B:My waterproof pants today, because I think.
Speaker B:I think Mike from Mike's Marine.
Speaker B:Marine Care.
Speaker B:Marine Craft or whatever, I think he got him too, because he loaded up the.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:That, that guy is another guru that we didn't even met.
Speaker A:You know, that guy, you know, works on boats.
Speaker A:And like I said, he.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's quite the character too, and a lot of fun.
Speaker A:And I think he's coming down to the shine time event, so.
Speaker A:But definitely, we'll.
Speaker A:We'll have that meter down there.
Speaker A:We'll put anybody that wants to come down and play with it.
Speaker A:Uh, yeah, we'll.
Speaker A:We'll scuff it.
Speaker A:We'll scuff some stuff up.
Speaker A:1500 and we'll.
Speaker A:We'll see what you got.
Speaker B:That's the way to do it, so.
Speaker B:Well, listen, Bob, I appreciate you coming on and doing this.
Speaker B:You know, it's something that, you know, bounced around a couple of times and, and schedules just didn't line up.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm.
Speaker B:I'm glad I was able to get you on.
Speaker B:It's always fun to talk to you.
Speaker B:You definitely have a wealth of knowledge, and it's always good seeing you.
Speaker B:So I appreciate you for doing this, sir.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Yeah, no problem.
Speaker B:Well, listen, you have a great rest of your evening.
Speaker B:Probably.
Speaker B:You're probably like myself, it's getting too close to bedtime.
Speaker A:Well, I got.
Speaker A:I got a little bit of a cold, and I was out planting my garden today.
Speaker A:I got a little bit of sun on my eyes.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely got.
Speaker A:I got roasted a little bit.
Speaker B:So there you go.
Speaker B:Well, listen, you take care.
Speaker B:We'll talk to you soon and be good man.
Speaker A:See you later.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker A:Bye.
